11 Feb
2016
11 Feb
'16
6:35 p.m.
On 11 Feb 2016 at 18:25:26, Eduard Moraru
(enygma2002@gmail.com(mailto:enygma2002@gmail.com)) wrote:
Yes.
"XWiki Runtime is a runtime-platform onto which you can develop applications which
can be bundled as Extensions.”
For me this is the XWiki Runtime. The Default Flavor is not part of the runtime. When you
execute the runtime you decide which Flavor to use. You don’t have to use the Default
Flavor. You can use other flavors such as the Demo flavor for example.
Cool, thanks
-Vincent
Hi,
On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 6:10 PM, vincent(a)massol.net
wrote:
Was thinking about this too but I’m not sure we need a wiki for that. Right now the
install docs are on platform already
(http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Installation).
Hi devs,
Now that we’ve voted on the "XWiki Core” concept and that we’ve agreed
that the xwiki organization on github should focused on offering core
extensions only (and the rest should be moved to contrib) we need to ensure
that we use the same terminology everywhere.
I’d like to start updating xwiki.org accordingly but first I want to be
sure we agree on the terminology:
* The "XWiki Runtime”: the XWiki WAR that you get from the various
distributions that you can find on xwiki.org. It’s a minimalistic runtime
on top of which you can install Extensions. Documentation for it will be
available at http://platform.xwiki.org.
The doc for "XWiki Runtime" is available on platform.xwiki.org (not on
runtime.xwiki.org).... sounds a bit weird to me. Maybe we should create an
alias for runtime, just in case? Also, the runtime is the result/artefact of building
the platform, right?
It`s what you actually get to install, as a user.
Yes correct.
I have hesitated long and hard on this when I wrote my email. I put XWiki Runtime, then
put XWiki Platform instead and finally went back to XWiki Runtime since using XWiki
Platform would cause confusions IMO (with several meanings). I found myself using XWiki
Platform Runtime anyway in writing. So using directly XWiki Runtime seems the less
ambiguous term for me.
* “XWiki
Core”: Represents the set of XWiki APIs/sources making up the
"XWiki Platform”.
The sources are available in github in the xwiki-commons, xwiki-rendering
and xwiki-platform repositories. More globally
can be meant to represent
all the sources found in the xwiki github organization.
* “XWiki Contrib”: Extensions to the "XWiki Runtime”. Located under the
xwiki-contrib organization in github.
* The "XWiki Core Development Team” or “XWiki Core Team” (previously
called "XWiki Development Team"): the list of committers of the “xwiki"
github organization.
* “XWiki Platform”: synonymous for “XWiki Core”. Since “XWiki Platform”
could also represent the xwiki-platform github repository, it’s better to
use “XWiki Core” when wanting to name the full content of the xwiki github
organization. For example: “The XWiki Core Development Team works on XWiki
Core”…
But we will still be saying that XWiki is a "platform" on which you can
build your stuff, right? I would prefer not to mix the 2 terms,
"Platform" and "Core", since IMO
"Core" includes "Platform", but not necessarily the other way
around.
Remember that commons and rendering are theoretically stand-alone projects
which are not directly connected to XWiki. The Platform works with the
rendering and commons to produce its artefacts but I would no go as far as
to say that it also includes them and would prefer to use "XWiki Core" for
that part.
Actually this is what I said: "it’s better to use “XWiki Core” when wanting to name
the full content of the xwiki github organization. For example: “The XWiki Core
Development Team works on XWiki Core”".
I can make 2 bullet points and not say they’re synonymous.
* “Flavor”: a
set of Extensions (usually with a purpose) that can be
installed all together in a XWiki Runtime or when creating a subwiki inside
the XWiki Runtime.
* The “Default Flavor”: the unique flavor provided by the “XWiki Core
Development Team”. Contrib projects and more generally anyone else can
contribute other flavors on extensions.xwiki.org. These flavors will
appear in the XWiki Platform when you first run it or when you create a new
subwiki. The Default Flavor is going to replace “XWiki Enterprise” (and
enterprise.xwiki.org will be removed and folded into platform.xwiki.org -
the same will happen for xwiki-enterprise which will be folded into
xwiki-platform in github)
* “XWiki Committers” or “XWiki Team". Vague terms that represent the full
set of committers of both the xwiki and xwiki-contrib github organizations.
* “XWiki N.P”. Shortcut for the “XWiki Runtime” version N.P (e.g. “XWiki
7.4.1”).
Will probably also be synonymous with "Default Flavor" version N.P since it
will be synchronized with the "XWiki Runtime”. * The “XWiki
Project”. Generic term that includes the work done by XWiki
Contrib Committers, XWiki Core Committers and by extensions the work done
by the full community of contributors to both xwiki and xwiki-contrib
github organizations.
Do you agree with this? Any other terms that we should define?
Generally +1 (with the above mentions). Thanks,
Eduard
>
> Once agreed I’ll kickstart the work by updating xwiki.org pages by
> creating a Terminology page and update some existing pages. However it’ll
> be up to everyone to follow the terminology.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>