1 Oct
2014
1 Oct
'14
7:43 p.m.
On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 8:14 PM, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
discussion
> and the evolution of it. It is not always easy to imagine good UI without
the
it
great
but
idea. I
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/19c9c68f-9dae-440e-ad82-3b8a6cc4623a.jpg
idea
and
> > put
> > > > the
> > > > >> >> "Add"
> > > > >> >> > button in its place.
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > Crude image explanation here:
> > > > >> >> >
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/hrxlj6n6pztigic/AddButton-Search.png
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > This way the "Add" button is back in
a global menu, not in
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s119/sh/948c4f24-2485-4b33-8452-1e6e1a2d6c74…
https://www.evernote.com/shard/s119/sh/b8803c9b-4ea7-43dd-a2ed-1226080074f2…
Dumitru
asked.
it
> > adds
> > > > >> >> > > page-related
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > entries
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > (i.e.
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> related to the current page), due to its
for a
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/File+Manager+Applicati…
checkboxes
the
bulk
extensions
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Unique+Identification+…
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On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 5:40 PM, Ecaterina Moraru
(Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com
when
Cathy, you have not read me carefully, where do you see an option to add a
wiki in those proposals ?
The current thread/discussion is about the new location of the "Add" menu,
not about the "Add Wiki" option (please use the other thread for that). It
was not started because of the "Add Wiki" option disagreement (that was
just an example/excuse), but because this particular choice of location was
never discussed/argued to begin with, even if the proposal received a
positive feedback as a whole.
IMO, that just proves that we did not analyse the proposal well enough, and
maybe that some of us just preferred to assume stuff instead of
asking/discussing.
I think we should focus more on making it right instead of finding blame...
Thanks,
Eduard
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
> > valicac(a)gmail.com
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:33 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I kind of like this proposal. As Jeremie pointed out, we`re more or
> > less
> > > > back where we started from, with the "improvement" that the
"Add"
> > button
> > > is
> > > > now in the middle of the page, hard to miss :)
> > > >
> > > > Now, if we also rename "Add" to "Create", the
only downside is that
> > > awkward
> > > > feeling of more or less cloning Atlassian's UI. However, it's
never a
> >
question of UI ownership or copying, but just of what works best in
> > practice and what makes sense.
> >
>
> Hi,
>
> Denis asked some days ago why some things changed from the original
> Flamingo proposal "which we all agreed on". Apparently this is the
reason
> > some of the things changed: listening to different opinions.
> >
> > One of the reasons I'm a bit upset with these discussions is that we
discussions
well
> as anything else on this project. We always need it realized to
received
proposed
Flamingo, a prototype was also available, so all these
'concerns'
> should have been noticed earlier, not in 6.2.1. These kind of should
happen in the Proposal phase, not in the Testing phase.
I completely agree with you on that point. And this is true for UI, as > criticisms. This probably a consequence of
the fact that we are all
very
busy.
That said, I do not remember seing a proposal that look like the
current result. And your initial proposal does not exhibit the issue we
are
actually discussing, which have been mainly
started because of the add
wiki
option.
It was always in the initial proposal
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Skin4x
and more explicitly in the Menus section
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/Skin4xMenus
>
> > Also all the changes proposed in Flamingo, where discussed before. We
> used
> > 'Add' naming because 'Create' was less used 'in the
wild', was
shorter,
> etc.
We moved the Add (from the Colibri position) because some users
find
it
difficult to locate, wanted to improve the actions grouping, etc.
I agree, what I am proposing actually only came from the current > tasting it for real. I think we should not
care too much, and we should
> look forward to finally getting the best UI ever, even if the process
is
not
academic.
our
----
I liked the Colibri's 'Add' position and I just want us to make this
change
> because we think that is the best place for it, not because we are
> influenced and think another product might have the magic solution to > problems.
>
> If you consider that after a 'period of testing' that location is not
the
> > best place for the 'Add' button to be, than I agree we can
'revert' > > change. IMO the menus are still not
optimal, but I guess only testing
> could
> > give us an impartial answer. I would have liked a bit more time to
test
> > this solution with 'normal'
users, and I hope we don't do this change
> > because regular/advanced users had a hard time to adapt to it. I will
> > repeat myself, I think skins are allowed to have differences (but
maybe
>
testing different solutions would be more acceptable if we had more
skins
> > or changed them more often).
> >
>
> I do not think we are complaining because we are advance, only because mixup
"out of context" and "in context" actions. Which is for the end
user,
> surely a source of confusion.
>
> Cathy, do not feel too upset of all these changes, you have made a job
preparing this new skin, it just need polishing as any of what we
do. I
> know it is frustrating that preview are not look at carefully enough,
that's life :)
:)
Thanks,
Caty
>
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Caty
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Regarding the addition of yet another "Add" button for
page-related
> > > entries, as suggested by Denis, I`m not sure it's such a good > > never
> > > did like modals that much in web interfaces and, AFAIK, they are
not
> > > recommended that much in HCI
(Human-Computer Interaction) classes
> either,
> > > for the simple reason that they are too volatile and are not
friendly
> > with
> > > the browser's "Back" button. I think we already have enough
shortcuts
in
Delhumeau
> <
> > > > > gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >> Even better:
> > > > >>
> > > the 'More Actions' section and the
'Edit' dropdown.
>
> Thanks,
> Eduard
>
> On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
> mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu>
wrote:
> > > > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 11:04 AM, Guillaume "Louis-Marie"
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes that one looks very cool to me but... :)
> > > > >
> > > > > I wonder if the name would not be better to be
"Create".
> > > > >
> > > > > Since, I think we still need an another button in the page
called
> > "Add"
> > > > to
> > > > > add to the page:
> > > > > * annotations using modal (you may select, than use the button
> > > normally)
> > > > > * comment using a modal (without having to scroll to the
bottom)
> > > > > * attachement using a
modal (without having to scroll to the
> > bottom),
> > > > > * objects using a modal (without necessarily needing to load
all
> > > > existing
> > > > > objects for edit, so a page could show objects without having
to
> > manage
> > > > > addition of new ones, AWSeconds)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > > This way, the extradoc tabs could be hidden, independently of
the
> >
> > comment/attachment functionality, and the pain of scrolling to
the
> > > bottom
> > > > > is removed.
> > > >
> > > > Adding a comment or uploading a file using a modal box is fine.
> > > > Viewing the comments/attachments in a modal box is not a good > >
> IMO. The user expects to see the comments/attachments after the
> > > content. I don't think we can hide the extradoc tabs. Or maybe I
> > > misunderstood.
> > >
> > > > It give also some logic to those button, with a non-contextual
> > > > create button, and a contextual add button. We could then allow
> > > application
> > > > to hook both of them depending on their needs.
> > > >
> > > > Another, a bit off-topic, remarks, is that in the More actions,
> > > annotation
> > > > should be isolated, and work like a toggle to display/hide them
> > > (including
> > > > the author filter box and the tooltips), without needing to
click a
> > > > seperate checkbox.
> > > >
> > > > WDYT ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> 2014-10-01 10:59 GMT+02:00 Guillaume "Louis-Marie"
Delhumeau <
> > > >> gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
> > > >>
> > > >> > So basically, you want:
> > > >> >
> >
http://tof.canardpc.com/view/25ad0704-563e-41cd-bbf2-72c371912245.jpg
> >
>> >
> > >> > 2014-10-01 10:46 GMT+02:00 vincent(a)massol.net <
vincent(a)massol.net
>:
> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >>
> > >> >> On 1 Oct 2014 at 10:09:00, Guillaume Lerouge (
guillaume(a)xwiki.com
> > >> (mailto:
> > >> >> guillaume(a)xwiki.com)) wrote:
> > >> >>
> > >> >> > Hi,
> > >> >> >
> > >> >> > after discussing with Vincent this morning we came to a
> suggestion
> > >> that
> > >> >> > would fix my issue with the current location of the add
button.
> > The
> > > >> idea
> > > >> >> > would be to move the search bar to the left of the
menu, 
a
it's
> > not
> > > > too
> > > > >> >> much
> > > > >> >> > in the way. Last item: this solves the issue
of having
the
menu
> > that
> > >> >> is
> > >> >> > contextual to the page, yet it stays very visible. In
addition
> to
> > > >> this,
> > > >> >> > since "Create wiki" is visible only to
authorized users, >
"Edit"
> > > and
> > > >> >> "More
> > > >> >> > actions" buttons separated from one another.
> > > >> >> >
> > > >> >> > WDYT?
> > > >> >>
> > > >> >> Sounds the best to me! :) I never really liked the move
of
the
> > Create
> > > >> >> button in the page contextual menu (doesn’t make sense
to
me).
> >
>> >>
> > >> >> FYI here’s what they have for:
> > >> >> - confluence:
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
>
> > >> >> - jira:
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
>
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> Thanks
> > > > >> >> -Vincent
> > > > >> >>
> > > > >> >> > Guillaume
> > > > >> >> > ᐧ
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 9:12 AM, Eduard Moraru
wrote:
> > > > >> >> >
> > > > >> >> > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:37 PM,
Guillaume Lerouge
> > > > >> >> > > wrote:
> > > > >> >> > >
> > > > >> >> > > > Hi,
> > > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:28 PM,
Ecaterina Moraru
> (Valica)
> > <
> > > > >> >> > > > valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 4:24
PM, Guillaume Lerouge
<
> >
> >> >> > > > > me(a)guillaumelerouge.com>
> > > >> >> > > > > wrote:
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > Hi,
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 3:08
PM, Ecaterina Moraru
> > (Valica)
> > > <
> > > >> >> > > > > > valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at
3:48 PM, Guillaume
Lerouge
> <
> > > > >> >> > > > > guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Hi Marius,
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > On Fri, Sep 26,
2014 at 3:54 PM, Marius > > > Florea
> > > > <
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > >
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > On Thu, Sep
25, 2014 at 1:58 PM, Guillaume
> > Lerouge
> > > <
> > > > >> >> > > > > > >
guillaume(a)xwiki.com>
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > Hi
again,
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > On
Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 12:39 PM,
Guillaume
> > > > >> >>
"Louis-Marie"
> > > > >> >> > > > > > Delhumeau <
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> Hi
Eddy,
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
2014-09-25 11:59 GMT+02:00 Eduard
Moraru <
> > >> >> > > >
enygma2002(a)gmail.com
> > >> >> > > > > >:
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > Hi
devs,
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > I`m not
sure if we already have a
discussion
> > >> started
> > >> >> on
> > >> >> > > this
> > >> >> > > > > > > topic,
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > but
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> in
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > my
opinion, it's long overdue. I see
people
> > > start
> > > >> >> being
> > > >> >> > > > > confused
> > > >> >> > > > > > > and
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >
questions like this [1] start to be > >
>> >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > The new
location of the Add menu in
Flamingo
> > is
> > > >> >> > > problematic
> > > >> >> > > > > IMO
> > > >> >> > > > > > > for
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > a
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >
various number of reasons:
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > -
It falsely gives the impression that > >
current
> > > >> >> location
> > > >> >> > > > > (i.e.
> > > >> >> > > > > > in
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > the
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> page
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >
content)
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > -
It conflicts with AWM`s "Add new
Entry"
> > > button
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > More
generally speaking, this is true lot
wiki
> of
> > >> >> > > livetables.
> > >> >> > > > We
> > >> >> > > > > > > would
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > need a generic
"Create" button to be
available
> > > when we
> > > >> >> > > > > instantiate
> > > >> >> > > > > > a
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > livetable.
This could be useful for the > > index
> > > >> >> page, for
> > > >> >> > > > the
> > > >> >> > > > > > user
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > directory,
for all the AWM homepages...
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > I guess you like
the files live table from
the
File
> > >> >> Manager
> > >> >> > > then
> > >> >> > > > :)
> > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > >
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
>
> > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > > . Would be interesting to have such a
toolbar
>
(with
> > > >> >> support for
> > > >> >> > > > > > custom
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > buttons) before
the live table don't you
think?
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > > IMO the toolbar's
functionality is already
covered
by
> > the
> > > >> >> > > 'Actions'
> > > >> >> > > > > > column
> > > >> >> > > > > > > in the livetable. The only
thing missing is the
> > 'Create'
> > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > > I'm not sure this is the
same use case. I can see
at
> > least
> > > 3
> > > >> >> reasons
> > > >> >> > > > why:
> > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > >
> > > >> >> > > > > IMO it's exactly the same use
case, the only
difference
> is
> > > that
> > > >> >> the
> > > >> >> > > > Actions
> > > >> >> > > > > column was used as an intermediate
solution because
we
> > > didn't
> > > > >> had
> > > > >> >> bulk
> > > > >> >> > > > > actions in livetable (the
ability to make multiple
> entity
> > > > >> >> selection
> > > > >> >> > > > > (checkbox) - that's why we
duplicate the entries on
> each
> > > > row).
> > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > Great, this means that we agree on
the fact that the
> > > "Actions"
> > > > >> >> column
> > > > >> >> > > > should be replaced by a
"Select" column with in
> > it,
> > > and
> > > >> >> also
> > > >> >> > > > that Marius' horizontal livetable
toolbar should be
> expanded
> > > to be
> > > >> >> used
> > > >> >> > > in
> > > >> >> > > > a generic fashion by all livetables :-)
> > > >> >> > > >
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > Not completely replaced because not all
operations/actions
> can
> > be
> > > >> >> performed
> > > >> >> > > in bulk fashion. Take the 'edit'
action and notice that
it
> is a
> > > >> single
> > > >> >> > > element action compared to 'delete'.
> > > >> >> > >
> > > >> >> > > A different situation exists for the
'rename' action
since
> it
> > > is
> > > > >> more
> > > > >> >> of a
> > > > >> >> > > single element action, but can be
presented as a bulk
> action
> > as
> > > > well
> > > > >> >> if you
> > > > >> >> > > provide some kind of renaming template
like '_'.
> > > > >> >> > >
> > > > >> >> > > In other words, both the bulk operations
toolbar and > > > actions
> > > > >> >> column
> > > > >> >> > > have their right place in the livetable
IMO and having
a
> > > checkbox
> > > > >> >> column
> > > > >> >> > > like Marius did for the FM livetable
looks like the
right
> way
> > > to
> > > > go.
> > > > >> >> > >
> > > > >> >> > > Thanks,
> > > > >> >> > > Eduard
> > > > >> >> > >
> > > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > Guillaume
> > > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >> >> > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >> >> > > > > Caty
> > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > 1/ The "create"
button would generate a new
entry,
> >
whereas
> > > the
> > > >> >> > > > "actions"
> > > >> >> > > > > > column is for actions that are
related to
individual
> > > > entries
> > > > >> >> that
> > > > >> >> > > > already
> > > > >> >> > > > > > exist
> > > > >> >> > > > > > 2/ The "actions"
column can be removed by the
> livetable
> > > > >> creator
> > > > >> >> > > > > > 3/ The toolbar would also
be useful to handle > > > actions
> > > > on
> > > > >> >> pages
> > > > >> >> > > > such
> > > > >> >> > > > > as
> > > > >> >> > > > > > "delete selected
entries" (as in the file
manager)
> > > > >> >> > >
> > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > Best,
> > > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > Guillaume
> > > > >> >> > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > Caty
> > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Yes and yes :-)
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > Guillaume
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
Basically the button would let the user
> create
> > a
> > > > new
> > > > >> >> item of
> > > > >> >> > > > the
> > > > >> >> > > > > > same
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > type
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > than
the items displayed in the
livetable.
>
Right
> > > now
> > > >> we
> > > >> >> do
> > > >> >> > > this
> > > >> >> > > > > in
> > > >> >> > > > > > an
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > ad-hoc
fashion, so it would be great to
have
a
> > > generic
> > > >> >> > > > solution.
> > > >> >> > > > > > It's
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > also
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > related to
the automatic page name
generation
> > > > module
> > > > >> >> (that we
> > > > >> >> > > > > don't
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > have
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > in
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > the
core yet, though there's an doing
> it
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > <
> > >> >> > > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > > >
> > >> >> > > > > >
> > >> >> > > > >
> > >> >> > > >
> > >> >> > >
> > >> >>
> > >>
> >
>
> > > > >> >> > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > > ).
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
Guillaume
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> - from my POV, looking at the page
from
a
> > far,
> > > > the
> > > > >> >> new
> > > > >> >> > > > > location
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > looks
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> completely randomly selected:
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> -- It's not on the left/top (as
> > left-to-right
> > > > >> >> language
> > > > >> >> > > > > specific
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > brains
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
are
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> trained to follow)
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> -- it's not exactly at the top either
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> -- it's not at the right
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> -- it's not next to the type of
elements
> it
> > > > creates
> > > > >> >> (i.e.
> > > > >> >> > > > next
> > > > >> >> > > > > > to
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> WIKI/SPACE/PAGE)
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> -- it basically is almost in the
middle
of
you
> the
> > > >> screen
> > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > -
etc. (i.e. others that don`t come
right
> > now
> > > > to my
> > > > >> >> mind)
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
>
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
Personally, I like the fact that it is
> located
> > > > near
> > > > >> >> the Edit
> > > > >> >> > > > > > button,
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > even
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> if
it does not concern the current page.
> > Because
> > > > it
> > > > >> >> groups
> > > > >> >> > > the
> > > > >> >> > > > > > most
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > basic
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
and useful actions that you need when > want
> > > to
> > > > >> >> > > contribute:
> > > > >> >> > > > > > EDIT,
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > ADD.
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> To
me, it makes sense.
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
>
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> I`d like to open a discussion on this,
> since
> > > > it's
> > > > >> >> quite an
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > important
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
aspect
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> of the UI and, due to it's shiny green
> color
> > > > (which
> > > > >> >> I like
> > > > >> >> > > > > :)),
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > it`s
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > hard
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> to miss.
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
>
> > > > >> >> > > > > > > > > >>
> Is it just me who's resistant to
change,
or
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> > >> >> > > a
> > >> >> > > > > > > problem
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > here
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > with
this as well?
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> >
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > Thanks,
> > >> >> > > > > > > > > >> > Eduard
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> > >> >
> > >> >
> > >> >
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> > >> > Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> > >> > Committer on the XWiki.org project
> > >> >
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Guillaume Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
> > >> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
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