On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 1:07 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
On 16 Feb 2016 at 11:47:12, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) (valicac(a)gmail.com
(mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
I think they are ok, although I find it to be a
lot of terminology.
Still not sure why we need the "XWiki N.P". First of all is a mix of
NS/ND,
I don’t see the relationship with Nested Spaces, Nested Documents :)
So for you XWiki N.P = XWiki x.y.z (since you gave XWiki 7.4.1 as example).
I understood XWiki N.P = XWiki NS/ND and since 7.4.1 :) has Nested pages
that's why I was confused.
Now it's clear.
Thanks,
Caty
plus I am not sure why we should give it such an
importance that it
enters
the terminology. I would use "since
7.4.1" instead, just like we have
with
all our documentation done for a particular
version.
In all/most our doc we use "since XWiki 7.4.1". We need to mention what
we’re referring to or there can be ambiguity :)
Also “XWiki Platform”: synonymous for “XWiki
Core” I find it to be
confusing and I think we should use Core instead if we want to talk about
everything.
Ah yes this is just a leftover. I forgot to remove it. Thanks.
Also we are keep talking about "Default
Flavor" which currently now is
"XWiki Enterprise" but it will change. Still the logo will be XWiki, so
will we want to brand somehow the "Default Flavor"? or we just keep it
XWiki? For the users "Default Flavor" = "XWiki", but I guess we will
need
to discuss this when the Flavors will evolve.
Yes indeed, we’ll discuss it then. IMO it’s the same XWiki logo. Other
flavors could use different logos though.
Thanks
-Vincent
Thanks,
Caty
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 11:25 AM, vincent(a)massol.net
wrote:
> Ok so we have 3 answers so far… If you agree or don’t agree please
send us
> your inputs, since 3 answers is not that
much!
>
> I’d really like to progress and publish those on
xwiki.org and start
> using them!
>
> See below for the changes.
>
> On 11 Feb 2016 at 17:10:28, vincent(a)massol.net (vincent(a)massol.net
(mailto:
> vincent(a)massol.net)) wrote:
>
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > Now that we’ve voted on the "XWiki Core” concept and that we’ve
agreed
> that the xwiki organization on github should
focused on offering core
> extensions only (and the rest should be moved to contrib) we need to
ensure
> that we use the same terminology
everywhere.
> >
> > I’d like to start updating xwiki.org(http://xwiki.org) accordingly
but
> first I want to be sure we agree on the
terminology:
> >
> > * The "XWiki Runtime”: the XWiki WAR that you get from the various
> distributions that you can find on xwiki.org(http://xwiki.org). It’s a
> minimalistic runtime on top of which you can install Extensions.
> Documentation for it will be available at
http://platform.xwiki.org.
>
> Changed to:
>
> * The “XWiki Distribution”: the XWiki WAR that you get from the various
> distributions that you can find on xwiki.org(http://xwiki.org). It’s a
> minimalistic runtime on top of which you can install Extensions.
> Documentation for it will be available at
http://platform.xwiki.org.
>
> * “XWiki Packages”: the various packagings used to distribute the
“XWiki
> Distribution”, e.g. the zip packaging, the
debian packaging, the exe
> installer, etc.
>
> > * “XWiki Core”: Represents the set of XWiki APIs/sources making up
the
> "XWiki Platform”. The sources are
available in github in the
xwiki-commons,
> xwiki-rendering and xwiki-platform
repositories. More globally can be
meant
> to represent all the sources found in the
xwiki github organization.
>
> Changed to:
>
> * “XWiki Core”: Represents the set of XWiki APIs/sources that end up
being
> in the “Default Flavor". The sources
are available in github in the
> xwiki-commons, xwiki-rendering and xwiki-platform repositories. More
> globally can be meant to represent all the sources found in the xwiki
> github organization. Generally speaking any module that isn’t bundled
in
> the “Default Flavor” should be moved to
XWiki Contrib (except for
modules
> that are used to build “XWiki Core” and
potentially some case by case
> exceptions).
>
> The rest remains unchanged.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > * “XWiki Contrib”: Extensions to the "XWiki Runtime”. Located under
the
> xwiki-contrib organization in github.
> >
> > * The "XWiki Core Development Team” or “XWiki Core Team” (previously
> called "XWiki Development Team"): the list of committers of the
“xwiki"
> github organization.
> >
> > * “XWiki Platform”: synonymous for “XWiki Core”. Since “XWiki
Platform”
> could also represent the xwiki-platform
github repository, it’s better
to
> use “XWiki Core” when wanting to name the
full content of the xwiki
github
> organization. For example: “The XWiki Core
Development Team works on
XWiki
> Core”…
> >
> > * “Flavor”: a set of Extensions (usually with a purpose) that can be
> installed all together in a XWiki Runtime or when creating a subwiki
inside
> the XWiki Runtime.
> >
> > * The “Default Flavor”: the unique flavor provided by the “XWiki Core
> Development Team”. Contrib projects and more generally anyone else can
> contribute other flavors on extensions.xwiki.org(
>
http://extensions.xwiki.org). These flavors will appear in the XWiki
> Platform when you first run it or when you create a new subwiki. The
> Default Flavor is going to replace “XWiki Enterprise” (and
> enterprise.xwiki.org(http://enterprise.xwiki.org) will be removed and
> folded into platform.xwiki.org(http://platform.xwiki.org) - the same
will
> happen for xwiki-enterprise which will be
folded into xwiki-platform in
> github)
> >
> > * “XWiki Committers” or “XWiki Team". Vague terms that represent the
> full set of committers of both the xwiki and xwiki-contrib github
> organizations.
> >
> > * “XWiki N.P”. Shortcut for the “XWiki Runtime” version N.P (e.g.
“XWiki
> 7.4.1”).
> >
> > * The “XWiki Project”. Generic term that includes the work done by
XWiki
> Contrib Committers, XWiki Core Committers
and by extensions the work
done
> by the full community of contributors to
both xwiki and xwiki-contrib
> github organizations.
> >
> >
> > Do you agree with this? Any other terms that we should define?
> >
> > Once agreed I’ll kickstart the work by updating xwiki.org(
>
http://xwiki.org) pages by creating a Terminology page and update some
> existing pages. However it’ll be up to everyone to follow the
terminology.
Thanks
-Vincent
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