11 Aug
2014
11 Aug
'14
4:48 p.m.
Hi devs,
Reviving this thread since I`ve stumbled upon this again while looking for
Fundry alternatives after a user asked on IRC for ways to donate to the
XWiki project.
The stats [1] on this website look promising and, since the vote was
positive on this matter, I suggest we go ahead and install the JIRA plugin
[2] that adds the link to sponsor an issue.
While going again through the website`s documentation, it`s very clear that
this is not a way to sponsor the project, but only to sponsor particular
issues and the developer that implements them. This way we have no issues
with the lack of an XWiki foundation for receiving money, since it's the
particular dev that gets the money.
Also, this is not a complete solution to the sponsorship/donations issue,
as other solutions can be implemented along side it (e.g. actually donating
to the project, maybe through a foundation), but it is IMO a good first
step into accepting financial contributions from the community.
As an added bonus, since contrib projects can use XWiki's jira as well,
this means that contrib projects can also benefit from this and have
sponsored issues.
Thanks,
Eduard
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[1] https://freedomsponsors.org/stats/
[2] https://github.com/freedomsponsors/freedomsponsors-jira-plugin
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 4:38 PM, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com> wrote:
From Vincent's link[1], I see that this is
intended, as it is actually the
system's philosophy which is OK in theory, but it is also obvious that it
can be abused.
"Once the issue is officially solved the sponsors can verify whether their
problem is really gone (according to the established criteria) and pay the
developer - otherwise they can just walk away.
*This is very important*: there is nothing on the system forcing anybody
to pay anything. There are no escrows and no pre-paid credits whatsoever.
This is not an implementation detail – it’s by philosophy.
The whole thing is *voluntary* to begin with. We want sponsors to pay the
developers because they feel grateful for their work, tipically after their
problem is actually solved."
Of course, if they did try to handle this issue technically, it would have
been pretty complex to decide when the task was complete according to the
sponsor's intention and established criteria. I guess they preferred to
have a (hypothetical) frustrated dev that was expecting a payoff for an
issue rather than having a (hypothetical) frustrated sponsor that payed for
something that was not quite what he wanted :)
Anyway, I still think it would not hurt to try it and see how it goes.
Thanks,
Eduard
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[1] http://blog.freedomsponsors.org/about/
On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Isn't there a control mecanism once the
person ready to fix it says "start
working on it" ?
At that point if the site does not block the money then it's risky
Ludovic
2013/3/5 Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>
going to
http://www.freedomsponsors.org/core/login/?next=/core/issue/sponsor%3Ftrack…
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Hi,
Yes, I really like the fact that it's integrated with jira and that
everything is contextualized.
However, I am a bit reserved about the success it is going to have,
since,
AFAIU, there is nothing stopping people from
spam-funding issues they
want
fixed, but in the end decide that they are not
going to fund any of the
work that has been done. Hope that will not be the case and that devs
will
be aware of this possibility and will primarily
do it for the fun :)
Anyway, I like the idea and I`m definitely +1 for trying it out.
Thanks,
Eduard
On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:37 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>
> On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:20 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com
>
> wrote:
>
> > This seams very similar to Sergiu's ideas some time ago when we
tried
> > with Fundry.
>
> Indeed, the idea is the same but the implementation different and I
think
the link
from the jira issue can make a difference.
Thanks
-Vincent
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Thomas Mortagne
> <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 5:09 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net
wrote:
>>>
>>> On Mar 5, 2013, at 5:03 PM, Thomas Mortagne <
thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Looks interesting.
> >>>>
> >>>> But who get the money exactly ?
> >>>
> >>> Anyone who implements what's asked.
> >>
> >> +1 then
> >>
> >>>
> >>> See http://blog.freedomsponsors.org/about/ for details.
> >>>
> >>> -Vincent
> >>>
> >>>> Can contributors be assigned to issues
> >>>> or is it only for the project itself (in that case it's not
> >>>> be very simple since we
don't have any entity yet) ?
> >>>>
> >>>> On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 4:56 PM, Vincent Massol <
vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>>>>> Hi devs,
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT of doing like Jenkins is doing and adding a "Sponsor this
issue" button on JIRA?
>>>>>
>>>>> For example:
>>>>> https://issues.jenkins-ci.org/browse/JENKINS-9030
>>>>>
>>>>> When you click it redirects to
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You can check
>>>>> http://www.freedomsponsors.org/
>>>>>
>>>>> It could be interesting to try it and see how it goes.
>>>>>
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> -Vincent
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