23 Mar
2011
23 Mar
'11
3:01 p.m.
Hey Jerome,
Thanx for the quick response.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 6:57 PM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
That sounds like a good idea , i will get on to looking up other wikis. Also
, I am planning to design a proposal for the skin after I have a look at the
other wikis.
Hi Supreet,
Great to see your interest in this project.
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Supreet Pal Singh <supreetpal(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
I did assume the lower bar to be static but I am not so clear about the
search bar is it static too or does it scroll with main content of the page?
And I agree that giving searching a high priority is a reasonable approach
for making the skin more user friendly.
Hey Caty,
Thanx :)
Also,I went through those links and the sketches heres what I think:
1. Jerome's version does look better and simple but I feel it would lack
the
ease of use as most of the functions would be
present in a separate menu
which could be reached through the '+' . More clicks leads to a less
intuitive UI and downgrades user experience. On the other hand, Jerome's
version gives a lighter and better look with only the main functions on
the
homescreen. What needs to be looked into is
whether the main options are
sufficient to cater an average user such that we can ignore the 'more
clicks' aspect.
What I have also noticed is that Jerome's version does include all the
functions present on yours yet has an option '+' and even your version
has
an empty function box so I am guessing there
are/would be more functions
that need to be present or added.
Personally, I am in favor of your version of the skin because its
functions
serve as tabs for dynamic lower portion of the
screen, the static layer
of
links to the various functions/screens makes it
easy to navigate for the
user.
Couple of remarks :
* It's maybe not obvious, but in my sketch the lower bar is static, so
you don't have to scroll for it, it always remains at the bottom of
the user screen
* As I tried to explain in my comment, I tend to think
base use case
of a mobile version is about searching + reading content and comment +
annotations. I think edit is a marginal use case. Does not mean it
should not be doable, but IMHO it should not be considered a primary
action. OTOH a good and accessible search is a must have. That's why
in my version the search bar is first class citizen, at the top of the
page.
* The search would be a dynamic one, a bit in the spirit of the search
suggest available since XE 3.0 (best is to check the feature in the
version in 3.0 RC1, due today)
I am in favor of the building from scratch because for a mobile skin to
actually be worthwhile performance needs to be optimum but i would need
guidance on how to go about start writing the code.
2. Even I feel that the two scrolls on the comments page should be done
away
with instead it should take the whole page.
And I am new to XWiki and its development tools so I would be needing
your
help to get on track so please bare with my
newbie questions.
1. I have downloaded 'xwiki-enterprise-installer-generic-3.0' and would
be
following the instructions as given on
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/Skins , is this the
correct approach?
Yes it's an approach that would work.
Also I think the mobile skin is about dropping tons of stuff, so
another approach would be to create a new skin from scratch and build
it keeping only on what is essential (to have good performances).
2. What else can I do to get a better know how
and integrate myself more
in
the project?
An idea could be you spend some time investigating how other wikis
have designed there mobile version (wikimedia one is interesting, but
I'm sure there are others) and refine on the design proposals Caty and
I made with your own ones, what do you think ?
Jerome
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Supreet
Thanx
On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
over
On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 20:19, Supreet Pal Singh <supreetpal(a)gmail.com
wrote:
>
>> Hey Caty,
>>
>> Thanx for getting back to me on that , I am currently going through the
>> links but due to my University examination which are going to be held >> the next 3 days I would be a little slow.
Also would you mind sharing
with
>> me you IRC nick?
>>
>
> The nick is evalica. Good luck with your exams.
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
>
>>
>> Thanx,
>> Supreet
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 22, 2011 at 1:56 AM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>> valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Also check out:
>>> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/Skins
>>> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Skins
>>> http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/Skins
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caty
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 22:09, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>>> valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Supreet,
>>>>
>>>> This project is really nice and can be approached from a variety of
>>>> angles (we can have same functionality, but a different suitable for
mobiles
>>>> skin; or we can think of a set o
limited functions to provide for
the
>>>> mobile versions, etc).
>>>>
>>>> I've done some sketches with a vision of a limited-mobile version of
>>>> XWiki:
>>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/MobileSkin
>>>> maybe this will give you some ideas.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Caty
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Mar 21, 2011 at 18:36, Supreet Pal Singh <
supreetpal(a)gmail.com>wroteote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>> I am Supreet and I would like to participate in GSoC-2011. I am
mainly
>>>>> interested in contributing to
the project idea "Mobile Skin for
XWiki
>>>>> Enterprise". I have been
working on web development for the past two
>>>>> years
>>>>> and developed a couple of websites. I have a good knowledge of
>>>>> HTML,XHTML
>>>>> and CSS , I also know PHP and am learning Javascript. If someone
could
>>> help
>>> me regarding this , I would be really thankful.
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