10 Mar
2007
10 Mar
'07
8:34 p.m.
+1 for option 2
Catalin
On 3/10/07, Sebastien Gaide <sgaide(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Wow ! so many good arguments against everything in
UTF8 from you and
VIncent. OK I understand better now why UTF8 everywhere may be
problem.
nevertheless, we have used utf8 for everything for more than a year
now (Eclipse, vi, notepad++) with no special configuration for javac,
maven etc ... and as of today with no problem. But of course our team
is less spread than the XWiki team ...
S.
2007/3/10, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu.dumitriu(a)gmail.com>om>:
On 3/10/07, Sébastien Gaïde <sgaide(a)gmail.com> wrote:
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Vincent Massol a écrit :
Depending on a particular encoding is bad because:
- The IDE has to be configured to use the encoding
- Building from command line needs extra parameters
- Opening a file using a standalone viewer, and not an IDE, will display the
file using the system encoding, and we can't tell the user to change this
- There are some people still using a shell, and something like midnight
commander to open files, and the support for non-ascii chars is not so good
in text shells.
So the best solution would be not to have any special chars in the source
files, so that any encoding works fine. However, there are some modules,
like tests and translation files, where special characters are needed. And
the only way to correctly display these chars in any environment is to use
\u sequences. Still, we should make a full switch to utf8, including the
source, so we should switch all the files to utf8.
Sergiu
+1 option 2 too (I think option 1 is never going
to work because it's
too constraining for developers).
why ?
XWiki is the only project that is not encoded in utf8 in my workspace.
All the other projects are 100% utf8, with no problem. S.
>
> -Vincent
>
> On Mar 8, 2007, at 4:01 PM, Gilles Serasset wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> While working on encodings problems, I saw that some of the source
>> file do use non ascii chars (which is normal, especially in unit
tests).
>>
>> But, there is currently no decision on the encoding of the source
>> file, hence, compilers cannot correctly read the files that do use non
>> ascii chars. This leads to tests working on single instances but not
>> on others, only due to compilation settings.
>>
>> There are 2 solutions:
>>
>> 1. force everybody to use UTF-8 encoding for their source files (it's
>> quite easy to st up most IDE once and for all for this...) and specify
>> the encoding in javac parameters in ant and maven.
>> 2. force everybody to use unicode escapes (\uXXXX) to specify a non
>> ascii char in the sources (easily detectable on build, but harder for
>> developpers who have to use native2ascii)
>>
>> Current files with non ascii chars:
>>
/Users/serasset/dev/xwiki/trunks-users/xwiki/core/src/main/java/com/xpn/xwiki/plugin/autotag/FrenchStemmer.java
>>
>>
/Users/serasset/dev/xwiki/trunks-users/xwiki/core/src/main/java/com/xpn/xwiki/plugin/autotag/AutoTagPlugin.java
>>
>> (Both are in ISO-8859-1)
>>
/Users/serasset/dev/xwiki/trunks-users/xwiki/core/src/test/java/com/xpn/xwiki/content/LinkTest.java
>
> (this one seems to be encoded in VISCII (vietnamese encoding)
>
> As in LinkTest.java, the test uses vietnamese characters, it's likely
> that ISO-8859-1 encoding is not a viable option for the xwiki source
> encoding. In the mean time, LinkTest.java should use \uXXXX uniocde
> escapes in order to run correctly in all installs.
>
> Can you please tell me which solution you prefer ?
>
> Regards,
>
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