4 May
2016
4 May
'16
9:23 p.m.
-0 (leaning more towards -1) since the focus should be on the extension and
not on the fact that it`s a contrib project. I really see no constructive
point generally in following "contrib-only" discussions and it`s something
that I`d personally prefer not to encourage. If you are interested in a
particular extension or a particular list of extensions, then it should be
easy to make a filter only for those keywords.
I do not support creating a community-wise segregation in any way between
the development of the XWiki core and its extensions, either explicit
(through a separate discussion list) or implicit (by differentiating core
discussions from extensions or the other way around). I find it already
hard enough to build a community, as it is.
Thanks,
Eduard
On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 3:32 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 5:41 PM, Anca Luca
<lucaa(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
to
would
> >> > allow
> >> > > to automatically decide if a mail is about contrib or not,
without
think
vice-versa.
mention
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+1 for [Contrib][<Project>]
+1
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 2:42 PM, Thomas Mortagne <
thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
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Then [Contrib][<Project>] I guess.
On Wed, Apr 27, 2016 at 1:59 PM, Anca Luca <lucaa(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
imagine
> > how I would create these filters). With a single keyword filters are
> easier
> > to do.
> >
> > Let's please decide quickly on this, because I see there is already
> contrib
> > related activity that I am missing...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Anca
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 12:27 PM, Eduard Moraru < Actually I don't like the idea of having the
name of the application
itself
and not a unique keyword because it's not
easy to have filters in the
mail
> client for all the names of the applications on contrib (I cannot > > wrote:
> >
> >> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 1:00 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > > On 08 Apr 2016, at 11:43, Anca Luca <lucaa(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > > Hello all,
> >> > >
> >> > > Since http://xwiki.markmail.org/thread/jrug6cbbqpia5bx4 (but
not
> only)
> >> > the
> >> > > rule says that we should discuss contrib related stuff with the
> >> > community.
> >> > > In my case, I cannot manage to follow all the mails on the
> >> > devs(a)xwiki.org
> >> > > (because they are a lot) but I would be particularly interested
of
> not
> >> > > missing the ones about contrib extensions.
> >> >
> >> > Since the dev rules for xwiki contrib are now the same as for
xwiki
core
>> > (i.e. dev.xwiki.org), I’m not sure if it makes sense to
differentiate
> >> > proposals. Maybe you could just filter mails with
"[Proposal]" and
> >> "[VOTE]”?
> >> >
> >> > > However, today, I don't know how
> >> > > to differentiate them, I would need to read all devs(a)xwiki.org
> not
> >> > miss
> >> > > one.
> >> > >
> >> > > There are multiple solutions that I can propose for this, please
> let me
> >> > > know what you think:
> >> > > 1/ have a contrib mailing list
> >> >
> >> > I feel that xwiki-contrib might be large enough now to warrant a
> mailing
> >> > list but maybe not 2 (users and devs).
> >> >
> >> > However there are issues:
> >> >
> >> > * Notifications from jira. We could have a single
contrib(a)xwiki.org
> >> > mailing for everything related
to contrib (users, devs,
> notifications).
> >> >
> >> > * Users don’t know if what they’re using from e.x.o is from Core
or
> from
> >> > Contrib so they’d have a hard time choosing the right list from
> >> > http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/MailingLists. For
> example
> >> > right now we have: "users(a)xwiki.org : For questions about using
> XWiki,
> >> > using the XWiki API, suggestions for improvements, ideas, etc.”
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > > 2/ have an alias for the contrib that would send on the same
list,
this
>> > way
>> > > we could filter by the "to" field
>> > > 3/ have a convention about mails related to contrib (e.g.
[Contrib]
in
>> > the
>> > > subject) that would allow to filter
>> >
>> > This is probably the simplest ATM. The pros is that it wouldn’t
create
> any
> > fragmentation between Contrib and Core, which is probably a good
thing.
>> >
>> > > 4/ any other technical solution that I didn't think about that
>>
> reading
>> > > it :D
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > 1, 2 and even 4 are perfectly fine with me, 3 is a bit risky
because
> >> > people
> >> > > might not follow conventions.
> >> > >
> >> > > What do you think?
> >> >
> >> > If we follow the direction that we’re trying to take, which is to
> have a
> >> > single large community (ie bring contrib and core together), I > the
> >> > best is to keep using the same lists as now but do a best effort
of
> using
> >> > "[Contrib]” for mails related only to contrib stuff.
> >> >
> >>
> >> IMO contrib devs should be up to date with the changes in the
platform
and
>> we should keep the communication tight with the platform. As we can
see,
> >> many topics on contrib apps trace down to the platform and >>
>> It would also not be very helpful for the project/community to do
such a
> >> segregation, so I agree with Vincent.
> >>
> >> Since we are talking about contrib (which are devs and which have a
> guide
> >> to follow), as Thomas suggested, it would be a helpful idea to the
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> app in the subject so that we can apply
filters in the mail client,
should
> we need them.
>
> Thanks,
> Eduard
>
>
> >
> > Thanks
> > -Vincent
> >
> > > Anca
> >
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