13 Jun
2016
13 Jun
'16
1:17 p.m.
Votes so far:
1. 3 = +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb), +0 (Marius), +1 (Vincent), +0 (Caty)
2. 3 = +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Caty)
Thanks,
Caty
On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:33 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com
wrote:
> Vincent, my understanding was that you had a certain preference, but it's
> true that you didn't explicitly voted. In this case I will try to count
> just the explicit (+/- 0,1) votes.
>
> Still (after going on the mails) I will consider formulations like "vote",
> "preferred", "favor", "OK" - although I might be wrong,
since otherwise is
> hard to translate the feedback received in votes. Would be ideal if people
> would vote explicitly.
>
> So, votes so far:
> 1. +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb), +0 (Marius), +1 (Vincent), +0 (Caty)
> 2. +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Caty)
> 3. +1 (GL), -1 (Caty)
>
> Hope I didn't do mistakes, otherwise state them and we will correct the
> vote.
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
> On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> > On 08 Jun 2016, at 13:50, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> >
>> > Votes so far on layout:
>> > 1. +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb)
>> > 2. +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Vincent)
>>
>> That’s not correct. I haven’t voted yet and I never said that the tree
>> shouldn’t be there.
>>
>> I just highlighted pros and cons of each :)
>>
>> +1 to 1 because:
>> - This is the option that shows clearly the concept of page hierarchy to
>> users
>> - Admins can then choose to keep it, only keep the AppBar (workgroup
>> flavor-style) or only keep the Tree (documentation flavor-style)
>> - This is about the default flavor which is generic. When we introduce
>> more flavors in the future, those flavors can favor a different panel
>> organization depending what’s best for them
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> > 3. +1 (GL)
>> >
>> > After more discussions the vote swifted towards:
>> > 1. +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb), +0 (Marius), +0 (Vincent)
>> > 2. +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Vincent)
>> > 3. +1 (GL)
>> >
>> > My preference goes to 2.
>> >
>> > I vote for 2 since I believe that the Tree is already in the Breadcrumb,
>> > and the breadcrumb is introduced by the Tour.
>> > I vote for 2 since we have scalability issues that I believe they will
>> pose
>> > some problems on the long run for the users.
>> >
>> > The only advantage var 1 has is that it displays the tree from the
>> start to
>> > the user. But after a time the user will be 'forced' to configure
its
>> wiki
>> > and remove it.
>> > Each time the user will install a new app, both the Appbar and the Tree
>> > will increase in size.
>> >
>> > I like much more the classic AppBar navigation pattern and I think
>> XWiki's
>> > greater strength is in applications.
>> >
>> > We are lacking now multiple flavors that could showcase both the KB and
>> > Groupware cases, but if I were to choose a default, that would be
>> > Groupware.
>> >
>> > So on V1 I will be +0, but definitely -1 on V3.
>> >
>> > Votes so far:
>> > 1. +1 (Ludovic), +1 (Caleb), +0 (Marius), +0 (Vincent), +0 (Caty)
>> > 2. +1 (GD), +1 (Marius), +1 (Vincent), +1 (Caty)
>> > 3. +1 (GL), -1 (Caty)
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Caty
>> >
>> > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 12:09 PM, Caleb James DeLisle <cjd(a)cjdns.fr>
> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I disagree with this point, as a user of web interfaces I don't care
if
>> >> they look completely busted as long as I can make use of them, even if
>> they
>> >> become unusable in 5% of the situations, that's 95% where I can use
>> them.
>> >>
>> >> Granted if we ship something that looks broken it's an
embarassement
>> but
>> >> if we ship something that a person cannot navigate then we don't
even
>> have
>> >> them complaining at us, they just become another silent non-adopter.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On 08/06/16 11:01, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> So I think version (1) looks good but it doesn't scale with what
we
>> have
>> >>> right now. Thus I'm more in favour of solution (2), at least
until we
>> can
>> >>> resize the panel width.
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