23 May
2016
23 May
'16
11:38 a.m.
+1 for curation as I agree it fits better our size, but on the long run the
ratings need to improve so that, at some point, it can take over most of
the curation effort.
Thanks,
Eduard
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
+1
Thanks,
Caty
On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Thomas Mortagne <
thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com
wrote:
> +1 for the curation in general but I'm not a big fan of your proposal
> of displaying only recommended extensions by default in EM (90% of the
> users won't change the filter and will find very few extensions). We
> could make recommended extensions listed first when you have empty
> search input instead and highlight them some way in the extension
> displayer (like some validation icon, a different color, etc.).
>
> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 10:39 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
> > Hi devs,
> >
> > We have a lot of entries on extensions.xwiki.org (869 as of today) and
> this causes some problems for our users:
> >
> > P1) A lot of them are not of good quality (they don’t work with the
> latest versions, they are complex to use, they’ve not been updated for a
> long time and are doing old and deprecated ways of doing things such as
not
providing an entry in the Applications Panel for
example, they’re not
just
polished, etc) and this causes frustrations for
our users. Note that this
also reflects on the overall quality of the XWiki project and product.
and
P2) It’s hard for users to locate good extensions among the rest.
We’ve started addressing P1) by introducing ratings on e.x.o. This is
not fully
successful so far because we don’t have enough people voting because those ratings are not used to
display/filter extensions on the
Extensions LT or inside XWiki in the EM UI. So we need to continue this
effort.
becomes
Note that this proposal is not addressing non-extensions such as
snippets which
we’ll need to move elsewhere at some point but that less important with the proposal below.
page,
Proposal
=======
I’d like to propose an additional strategy that, IMO, is better suited
for the
size of our community: curation. Curation is the process of
hand-selecting the best extensions and marking them as recommended. The
idea would be to list recommended extensions first on the e.x.o home in the EM UI in XWiki and even in extension
search results. In the EM UI,
an idea would also be to have a new “Recommended Extensions” filter in
addition to the existing filters (core extensions, installed extensions,
etc) and that would be the default filter on the “Add Extensions” UI.
the
I propose to add a “Recommended” xproperty in the Repository app for
that. We can
decide whether we want this just for e.x.o or committed in Repository app in xwiki-platform.
>
> Then we need to decide about the curation process:
>
> * The XWiki core committers are in charge (i.e. have the
responsibility)
of monitoring the apps that are marked
“Recommended”, ie. validating that
it’s done correctly. XWiki core committers have the authorization to
unset
an app that was marked a recommended by a
community member.
the
* We wouldn’t offer a simple way in the UI to
mark an extension as
recommended since we don’t want everyone who has an account on
xwiki.org
to start marking apps as recommended. OTOH we want to allow people from xwiki community to help out. So the way to mark
an extension as
recommended
would be to use the object editor (for now, we
can define a better
implementation mechanism later on).
case
* We define some basic rules that extensions need
to follow at minimum
to be accepted as recommended. These will be our guidelines to
avoid
conflict of opinions (although there’s always the possibility in which it’s resolved through a vote):
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/ApplicationDevelopmentBestPra…
.
- Need to work on LTS + latest XWiki version (ie.
ATM that would be
7.4.x and 8.1)
- Need to present a polished aspect and be easily
usable
- Need to follow most of the best practices defined on
Some important examples: technical pages are
hidden, extension is
registered in the app bar when it makes sense, extension is
internationalized (if it makes sense), pages are in xwiki syntax 2.0+.
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I’m willing to help do the work and mark extensions as recommended.
Thanks
-Vincent
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