26 Jun
2008
26 Jun
'08
7:27 p.m.
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Evelina Slatineanu
<evelina.slatineanu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi all,
For the new Administration application to work properly in an empty wiki
(create users, groups, set rights etc), the following files have to be moved
from XE to Administration:
Xwiki.Admin
Xwiki.Users
Xwiki.XwikiUserSheet
Xwiki.XWikiUserTemplate
Xwiki.AdminGroup
Xwiki.AllGroup
Xwiki.Groups
Xwiki.XwikiGroupSheet
Xwiki.XwikiGroupTemplate
Xwiki.Rights
Xwiki.GlobalRights
Xwiki.DefaultSkin
Xwiki.Skins
Xwiki.XwikiPreferences
-1 for XWiki.XWikiPreferences at least the one from XE which contains
rights configuration in it.
Plus admin should be able to automatically create the
XWiki.XWikiPreferences page when needed.
I already sent the patch to JV, we only need votes. I'm +1
Thanks, Evelina
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27 Jun
11:18 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] Administration Application Needed Files
On Jun 26, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Evelina Slatineanu
<evelina.slatineanu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Since everyone else is +1 I want to be sure we understand why you're
against it Thomas.
For me XE = SUM(Applications). So every single page has to belong to
an application. The best application for XWikiPreferences seem to be
the Admin one.
Now regarding the fact that XWikiPreferences page is automatically
created by core. I think we shouldn't have this and by default XE
should use the xwiki.cfg data only if XWikiPreferences doesn't exist.
And it should be mandatory to import the Admin app before being able
to do anything at all in the wiki. Actually the setup wizard should
force its installation.
Now the question we need to ask ourselves is whether we want an empty
wiki to fully work without importing anything at all. In that case the
admin features should be located as plugins/components in the core and
the Admin app is ONLY the UI part of the admin + possibly some non
critical (i.e. the wiki can work without them) pages.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
Hi all,
For the new Administration application to work properly in an empty
wiki
(create users, groups, set rights etc), the following files have to
be moved
from XE to Administration:
Xwiki.Admin
Xwiki.Users
Xwiki.XwikiUserSheet
Xwiki.XWikiUserTemplate
Xwiki.AdminGroup
Xwiki.AllGroup
Xwiki.Groups
Xwiki.XwikiGroupSheet
Xwiki.XwikiGroupTemplate
Xwiki.Rights
Xwiki.GlobalRights
Xwiki.DefaultSkin
Xwiki.Skins
Xwiki.XwikiPreferences
-1 for XWiki.XWikiPreferences at least the one from XE which contains
rights configuration in it.
Plus admin should be able to automatically create the
XWiki.XWikiPreferences page when needed.
11:34 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] Administration Application Needed Files
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Jun 26, 2008, at 7:27 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
If we consider an empty wiki as unusable the I would be +0 for
including XWikiPreference (I would still think it's not clean and
useless to have it in Admin but it would not be a so strong issue
anymore).
But I don't like this way to see admin application which should be...
an application and not contains useless and arbitrary datas IMO.
On Thu, Jun 26, 2008 at 7:00 PM, Evelina
Slatineanu
<evelina.slatineanu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Since everyone else is +1 I want to be sure we understand why you're
against it Thomas.
For me XE = SUM(Applications). So every single page has to belong to
an application. The best application for XWikiPreferences seem to be
the Admin one.
Now regarding the fact that XWikiPreferences page is automatically
created by core. I think we shouldn't have this and by default XE
should use the xwiki.cfg data only if XWikiPreferences doesn't exist.
And it should be mandatory to import the Admin app before being able
to do anything at all in the wiki. Actually the setup wizard should
force its installation.
Now the question we need to ask ourselves is whether we want an empty
wiki to fully work without importing anything at all. In that case the
admin features should be located as plugins/components in the core and
the Admin app is ONLY the UI part of the admin + possibly some non
critical (i.e. the wiki can work without them) pages. Hi all,
For the new Administration application to work properly in an empty
wiki
(create users, groups, set rights etc), the following files have to
be moved
from XE to Administration:
Xwiki.Admin
Xwiki.Users
Xwiki.XwikiUserSheet
Xwiki.XWikiUserTemplate
Xwiki.AdminGroup
Xwiki.AllGroup
Xwiki.Groups
Xwiki.XwikiGroupSheet
Xwiki.XwikiGroupTemplate
Xwiki.Rights
Xwiki.GlobalRights
Xwiki.DefaultSkin
Xwiki.Skins
Xwiki.XwikiPreferences
-1 for XWiki.XWikiPreferences at least the one from XE which contains
rights configuration in it.
Plus admin should be able to automatically create the
XWiki.XWikiPreferences page when needed.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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3 Jul
9:12 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] Administration Application Needed Files
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
If we consider an empty wiki as unusable the I would be +0 for
including XWikiPreference (I would still think it's not clean and
useless to have it in Admin but it would not be a so strong issue
anymore).
I think we can consider that an empty wiki is unusable from a user POV.
And the admin app is becoming the minimal package required to be able to use XE.
But I don't like this way to see admin application
which should be...
an application and not contains useless and arbitrary datas IMO.
I think that for the moment we need to put some default values in a
provided XWikiPreferences, for the panels prefs for example.
BTW the question here is just "do we all agree to move
XWikiPreferences", not "is it normal to provide a default
XWikiPreferences".
I'd like to commit this later today.
Thanks,
JV.
5:09 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] Administration Application Needed Files
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Jean-Vincent Drean <jv(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
No shouts in the meantime, commiting now.
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Jean-Vincent Drean
If we consider an empty wiki as unusable the I would be +0 for
including XWikiPreference (I would still think it's not clean and
useless to have it in Admin but it would not be a so strong issue
anymore).
I think we can consider that an empty wiki is unusable from a user POV.
And the admin app is becoming the minimal package required to be able to use XE.
But I don't like this way to see admin
application which should be...
an application and not contains useless and arbitrary datas IMO.
I think that for the moment we need to put some default values in a
provided XWikiPreferences, for the panels prefs for example.
BTW the question here is just "do we all agree to move
XWikiPreferences", not "is it normal to provide a default
XWikiPreferences".
I'd like to commit this later today.
5:12 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] Administration Application Needed Files
Arg, I've applied the patch instead of doing a clean svn move ...
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean <jv(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Thu, Jul 3, 2008 at 9:12 AM, Jean-Vincent Drean
<jv(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
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Jean-Vincent Drean
On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 11:34 AM, Thomas
Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
No shouts in the meantime, commiting now.
--
Jean-Vincent Drean
If we consider an empty wiki as unusable the I would be +0 for
including XWikiPreference (I would still think it's not clean and
useless to have it in Admin but it would not be a so strong issue
anymore).
I think we can consider that an empty wiki is unusable from a user POV.
And the admin app is becoming the minimal package required to be able to use XE.
But I don't like this way to see admin
application which should be...
an application and not contains useless and arbitrary datas IMO.
I think that for the moment we need to put some default values in a
provided XWikiPreferences, for the panels prefs for example.
BTW the question here is just "do we all agree to move
XWikiPreferences", not "is it normal to provide a default
XWikiPreferences".
I'd like to commit this later today.
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