22 Nov
2007
22 Nov
'07
10:26 a.m.
Hi,
Several users are saying that 10MB is too low a default value. I think
I agree with them. Now I can't think of a downside for increasing it
to a higher value. Is there any potential issue increasing it by
default to a higher value?
What could be the a better value? That's a hard question but I'd say
30MB should be fine.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
22 Nov
22 Nov
10:36 a.m.
30 MB seems indeed a better choice.
Will you add the property to the XWikiPreferences class ? Because one of the
problenms was that when you started xwiki with an empty database, and wanted
to reload a backup of your wiki contents, you could not add the
property to the class in the class editor - and that is the time when you
need it the most, since you want to import the XAR of your wiki, which might
easily be more than the max upload size (if users had uploaded a lot of
attachments).
On 11/22/07, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi,
Several users are saying that 10MB is too low a default value. I think
I agree with them. Now I can't think of a downside for increasing it
to a higher value. Is there any potential issue increasing it by
default to a higher value?
What could be the a better value? That's a hard question but I'd say
30MB should be fine.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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1:30 p.m.
Hi,
For the property issue, it would indeed be great to have it by default,
and to increase the default size. Also, there are two tricks you can use
to add it when you have an empty wiki : the first one would consist of
importing a standard XAR before importing your actual wiki, which would
allows you to edit the class with the editor. The second one would be to
use the "propadd" URL action : hit something like
.../xwiki/bin/propadd/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?propname=maxsize_upload&proptype=com.xpn.xwiki.objects.classes.NumberClass
inside your browser. I agree, it's not really convenient, but it can help
on such cases where you are stuck.
Jerome.
30 MB seems indeed a better choice.
Will you add the property to the XWikiPreferences class ? Because one of
the
problenms was that when you started xwiki with an empty database, and
wanted
to reload a backup of your wiki contents, you could not add the
property to the class in the class editor - and that is the time when you
need it the most, since you want to import the XAR of your wiki, which
might
easily be more than the max upload size (if users had uploaded a lot of
attachments).
On 11/22/07, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi,
Several users are saying that 10MB is too low a default value. I think
I agree with them. Now I can't think of a downside for increasing it
to a higher value. Is there any potential issue increasing it by
default to a higher value?
What could be the a better value? That's a hard question but I'd say
30MB should be fine.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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1:35 p.m.
On Nov 22, 2007, at 10:36 AM, jvivien.m2 jvivien.m2 wrote:
30 MB seems indeed a better choice.
Will you add the property to the XWikiPreferences class ?
This is done already.
All the remains is to agree on a maxsize default value.
-Vincent
Because one of the problenms was that when you started
xwiki with an
empty database, and wanted to reload a backup of your wiki contents,
you could not add the property to the class in the class editor -
and that is the time when you need it the most, since you want to
import the XAR of your wiki, which might easily be more than the max
upload size (if users had uploaded a lot of attachments).
On 11/22/07, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi,
Several users are saying that 10MB is too low a default value. I think
I agree with them. Now I can't think of a downside for increasing it
to a higher value. Is there any potential issue increasing it by
default to a higher value?
What could be the a better value? That's a hard question but I'd say
30MB should be fine.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
2:56 p.m.
sorry guys, i dont get it yet...
why not add the property to the default list of properties in the
XWikipreferences class, directly ?
i agree with you on the default value, but i dont see why it wouldnt be
possible to have upload_maxsize as one of the
properties which are readily accessible, when you edit the XWikiPreferences
object ?
If this would have to be coded in the xwiki Java source code, then maybe it
could be added to the next version :-) If its not too much work for you (i
dont think it is actually, and that s why i ask about it)
On 11/22/07, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Nov 22, 2007, at 10:36 AM, jvivien.m2 jvivien.m2 wrote:
30 MB seems indeed a better choice.
Will you add the property to the XWikiPreferences class ?
This is done already.
All the remains is to agree on a maxsize default value.
-Vincent
Because one of the problenms was that when you started xwiki with an empty
database, and wanted to reload a backup of your wiki contents, you could not
add the property to the class in the class editor - and that is the time
when you need it the most, since you want to import the XAR of your wiki,
which might easily be more than the max upload size (if users had uploaded a
lot of attachments).
On 11/22/07, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
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Hi,
Several users are saying that 10MB is too low a default value. I think
I agree with them. Now I can't think of a downside for increasing it
to a higher value. Is there any potential issue increasing it by
default to a higher value?
What could be the a better value? That's a hard question but I'd say
30MB should be fine.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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3:06 p.m.
Actually, what Vincent said is that he just done the job and commited it,
so next XWiki release will have that upload_maxsize parameter available by
default in XWiki.XWikiPreferences. My email was a bit misleading, I just
wanted to expose ways of getting this preference (for example for current
versions, where it is not set by default).
For the default size, the question is, is there any constraint that
prevent us to have a large value (let's say 100MB+) ? If we don't consider
this param, the limiting factor for big imports is heap memory ?
Jérôme.
sorry guys, i dont get it yet...
why not add the property to the default list of properties in the
XWikipreferences class, directly ?
i agree with you on the default value, but i dont see why it wouldnt be
possible to have upload_maxsize as one of the
properties which are readily accessible, when you edit the
XWikiPreferences
object ?
If this would have to be coded in the xwiki Java source code, then maybe
it
could be added to the next version :-) If its not too much work for you (i
dont think it is actually, and that s why i ask about it)
On 11/22/07, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Nov 22, 2007, at 10:36 AM, jvivien.m2 jvivien.m2 wrote:
30 MB seems indeed a better choice.
Will you add the property to the XWikiPreferences class ?
This is done already.
All the remains is to agree on a maxsize default value.
-Vincent
Because one of the problenms was that when you started xwiki with an
empty
database, and wanted to reload a backup of your wiki contents, you could
not
add the property to the class in the class editor - and that is the time
when you need it the most, since you want to import the XAR of your
wiki,
which might easily be more than the max upload size (if users had
uploaded a
lot of attachments).
On 11/22/07, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
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Hi,
Several users are saying that 10MB is too low a default value. I think
I agree with them. Now I can't think of a downside for increasing it
to a higher value. Is there any potential issue increasing it by
default to a higher value?
What could be the a better value? That's a hard question but I'd say
30MB should be fine.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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3:45 p.m.
On Nov 22, 2007, at 3:06 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
Actually, what Vincent said is that he just done the
job and
commited it,
so next XWiki release will have that upload_maxsize parameter
available by
default in XWiki.XWikiPreferences. My email was a bit misleading, I
just
wanted to expose ways of getting this preference (for example for
current
versions, where it is not set by default).
For the default size, the question is, is there any constraint that
prevent us to have a large value (let's say 100MB+) ? If we don't
consider
this param, the limiting factor for big imports is heap memory ?
Yes you're right for the limiting factor.
I think we should choose a value that allows to attach typical
documents: word, ppt, excel, etc. These are typically < 10 MB anyway
(and most people also want to exchange them by email so there's the
typical limit of < 10 MB).
I don't think we should size it for backups since there's no cap for
this. For example for xwiki.org the XAR size must be close to 600MB I
think and it can easily grow much bigger.
The only downside I can think for large values are:
* heap size, people will get OOM exceptions
* time to upload
* time to expand the xar when you click on it in the import page (we
need to change that since for large xars it takes at least 10 seconds
before showing anything)
* potential database slowdown if there are large files in them
BTW Mysql has a default 1MB max. I wonder why they have this default
limitation. Might be interesting to understand.
Any other opinion, idea?
Thanks
-Vincent
sorry guys, i
dont get it yet...
why not add the property to the default list of properties in the
XWikipreferences class, directly ?
i agree with you on the default value, but i dont see why it
wouldnt be
possible to have upload_maxsize as one of the
properties which are readily accessible, when you edit the
XWikiPreferences
object ?
If this would have to be coded in the xwiki Java source code, then
maybe
it
could be added to the next version :-) If its not too much work for
you (i
dont think it is actually, and that s why i ask about it)
On 11/22/07, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
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On Nov 22, 2007, at 10:36 AM, jvivien.m2 jvivien.m2 wrote:
30 MB seems indeed a better choice.
Will you add the property to the XWikiPreferences class ?
This is done already.
All the remains is to agree on a maxsize default value.
-Vincent
Because one of the problenms was that when you started xwiki with an
empty
database, and wanted to reload a backup of your wiki contents, you
could
not
add the property to the class in the class editor - and that is
the time
when you need it the most, since you want to import the XAR of your
wiki,
which might easily be more than the max upload size (if users had
uploaded a
lot of attachments).
On 11/22/07, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
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Hi,
Several users are saying that 10MB is too low a default value. I
think
I agree with them. Now I can't think of a downside for increasing
it
to a higher value. Is there any potential issue increasing it by
default to a higher value?
What could be the a better value? That's a hard question but I'd
say
30MB should be fine.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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3:55 p.m.
Hi
No idea guys...
We can have 30 MB.
regards
Arvind
On 22/11/2007, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi,
Several users are saying that 10MB is too low a default value. I think
I agree with them. Now I can't think of a downside for increasing it
to a higher value. Is there any potential issue increasing it by
default to a higher value?
What could be the a better value? That's a hard question but I'd say
30MB should be fine.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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26 Nov
26 Nov
3:52 p.m.
Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi,
Several users are saying that 10MB is too low a default value. I think
I agree with them. Now I can't think of a downside for increasing it
to a higher value. Is there any potential issue increasing it by
default to a higher value?
What could be the a better value? That's a hard question but I'd say
30MB should be fine.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
Let's make it a round number: 32M
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