22 Nov
2010
22 Nov
'10
2:51 p.m.
Hi devs,
In the same manner that we have playground.xwiki.org, I'd like to propose to have a
design.xwiki.org wiki for putting our Designs and Mockups (be them static or dynamic).
Right now we have design and mockup information in 2 places:
- http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
- on incubator.myxwiki.org
I'd like to propose that we merge them both on a new http://design.xwiki.org wiki
(using latest XE 2.6 version).
Note: If we had support for nested spaces I'd have proposed that we do it on the
existing dev.xwiki.org wiki but we'll probably need several pages for each Design
proposal.
On design.xwiki.org I envision a home page listing all Design ideas with the ability to
filter by state (implemented, in progress, dead). I envision one space per design idea and
each home page would contain a DesignIdea object containing the metadata (status, etc).
Similar to what we have on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
22 Nov
22 Nov
3:19 p.m.
Definitely +1 for the design.xwiki.org wiki.
About one space per idea, I'm not so sure. I think it could be one page with
a DesignIdea object per idea, and each such pages link to as many additional
pages as it needs ; without the need to partition everything in its own
space (I think this will lead to many spaces with just a home page - which
is not a problem per se, but it does not bring anything on the table
either).
Also, I think the home page should not be just a livetable. I'd like to see
"promoted" the active design ideas (the ones investigated during the current
release for example), before that livetable.
The {{reviews /}} macro I've contributed (that shows latests comments or
annotations) could also be a good candidate for the home page / dashboard of
that wiki.
Jerome.
On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 2:51 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi devs,
In the same manner that we have playground.xwiki.org, I'd like to propose
to have a design.xwiki.org wiki for putting our Designs and Mockups (be
them static or dynamic).
Right now we have design and mockup information in 2 places:
- http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
- on incubator.myxwiki.org
I'd like to propose that we merge them both on a new
http://design.xwiki.org wiki (using latest XE 2.6 version).
Note: If we had support for nested spaces I'd have proposed that we do it
on the existing dev.xwiki.org wiki but we'll probably need several pages
for each Design proposal.
On design.xwiki.org I envision a home page listing all Design ideas with
the ability to filter by state (implemented, in progress, dead). I envision
one space per design idea and each home page would contain a DesignIdea
object containing the metadata (status, etc). Similar to what we have on
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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23 Nov
23 Nov
3:50 a.m.
On 11/22/2010 02:51 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi devs,
In the same manner that we have playground.xwiki.org, I'd like to propose to have a
design.xwiki.org wiki for putting our Designs and Mockups (be them static or dynamic).
Right now we have design and mockup information in 2 places:
- http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
- on incubator.myxwiki.org
I'd like to propose that we merge them both on a new http://design.xwiki.org wiki
(using latest XE 2.6 version).
Note: If we had support for nested spaces I'd have proposed that we do it on the
existing dev.xwiki.org wiki but we'll probably need several pages for each Design
proposal.
On design.xwiki.org I envision a home page listing all Design ideas with the ability to
filter by state (implemented, in progress, dead). I envision one space per design idea and
each home page would contain a DesignIdea object containing the metadata (status, etc).
Similar to what we have on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
+0.
I remember an old idea to reduce the number of wikis on *.xwiki.org,
instead of increasing it.
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8:17 a.m.
On Nov 23, 2010, at 3:50 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
On 11/22/2010 02:51 PM, Vincent Massol wrote:
Yes I thought about it but it would mean using name conventions in order to separate
proposals and that's a real pain. It wouldn't work I think. Again, the limitation
is that we don't have nested spaces.
Thanks
-Vincent
Hi devs,
In the same manner that we have playground.xwiki.org, I'd like to propose to have a
design.xwiki.org wiki for putting our Designs and Mockups (be them static or dynamic).
Right now we have design and mockup information in 2 places:
- http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
- on incubator.myxwiki.org
I'd like to propose that we merge them both on a new http://design.xwiki.org wiki
(using latest XE 2.6 version).
Note: If we had support for nested spaces I'd have proposed that we do it on the
existing dev.xwiki.org wiki but we'll probably need several pages for each Design
proposal.
On design.xwiki.org I envision a home page listing all Design ideas with the ability to
filter by state (implemented, in progress, dead). I envision one space per design idea and
each home page would contain a DesignIdea object containing the metadata (status, etc).
Similar to what we have on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
+0.
I remember an old idea to reduce the number of wikis on *.xwiki.org,
instead of increasing it. 
10:30 a.m.
I'm +0
What's less clear to me on xwiki.org is where you find the XWiki SDK and
how to develop "on top" of XWiki.
dev.xwiki.org is a bit confusing in this matter. We should expose the
Platform and DevGuide more as "platform" is not really clear (terms
like sdk or api are more common)
Otherwise I'm wondering what is the difference between dev and design.
Is it:
- dev is information for developers (processes, tools documentation etc..)
- design is information about improvements on XWiki (actual action to
improve XWiki)
If so it is indeed relevant.. And indeed if we had nested spaces and
even more "nested wikis", then it would make sense to do it like that.
Ludovic
Le 22/11/10 14:51, Vincent Massol a écrit :
Hi devs,
In the same manner that we have playground.xwiki.org, I'd like to propose to have a
design.xwiki.org wiki for putting our Designs and Mockups (be them static or dynamic).
Right now we have design and mockup information in 2 places:
- http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
- on incubator.myxwiki.org
I'd like to propose that we merge them both on a new http://design.xwiki.org wiki
(using latest XE 2.6 version).
Note: If we had support for nested spaces I'd have proposed that we do it on the
existing dev.xwiki.org wiki but we'll probably need several pages for each Design
proposal.
On design.xwiki.org I envision a home page listing all Design ideas with the ability to
filter by state (implemented, in progress, dead). I envision one space per design idea and
each home page would contain a DesignIdea object containing the metadata (status, etc).
Similar to what we have on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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10:38 a.m.
On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Ludovic Dubost wrote:
I'm +0
What's less clear to me on xwiki.org is where you find the XWiki SDK and how to
develop "on top" of XWiki.
This is the platform.
dev.xwiki.org is a bit confusing in this matter. We
should expose the Platform and DevGuide more as "platform" is not really clear
(terms like sdk or api are more common)
dev is about the xwiki development itself not how to develop on xwiki (as indicated on the
home page of dev.xwiki.org).
Otherwise I'm wondering what is the difference
between dev and design.
design.xwiki.org would be a subwiki of the dev wiki, linked from the home of
dev.xwiki.org.
Is it:
- dev is information for developers (processes, tools documentation etc..)
yes
- design is information about improvements on XWiki
(actual action to improve XWiki)
yes, also in the category of the development of xwiki (and not development *in* xwiki).
Thanks
-Vincent
If so it is indeed relevant.. And indeed if we had
nested spaces and even more "nested wikis", then it would make sense to do it
like that.
Ludovic
Le 22/11/10 14:51, Vincent Massol a écrit :
> Hi devs,
>
> In the same manner that we have playground.xwiki.org, I'd like to propose to have
a design.xwiki.org wiki for putting our Designs and Mockups (be them static or dynamic).
>
> Right now we have design and mockup information in 2 places:
> - http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
> - on incubator.myxwiki.org
>
> I'd like to propose that we merge them both on a new http://design.xwiki.org wiki
(using latest XE 2.6 version).
>
> Note: If we had support for nested spaces I'd have proposed that we do it on the
existing dev.xwiki.org wiki but we'll probably need several pages for each Design
proposal.
>
> On design.xwiki.org I envision a home page listing all Design ideas with the ability
to filter by state (implemented, in progress, dead). I envision one space per design idea
and each home page would contain a DesignIdea object containing the metadata (status,
etc). Similar to what we have on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
>
> WDYT?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
12:08 p.m.
+1 if xwiki.org is more stable than incubator
I would also like IRC not listening to minor edits on this wiki so people
could freely edit|comment the design pages. This means having a workable
wiki, not just a showroom|display one.
for me Improvements space is sufficient, but if we want to centralize the
process, than fine.
If we decide to go with the new wiki, I will move all the content from
incubator.Improvements in the new location.
and yes, we can make a nice homepage for this wiki - I'll take care of that.
Thanks,
Caty
On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 11:38, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Nov 23, 2010, at 10:30 AM, Ludovic Dubost wrote:
I'm +0
What's less clear to me on xwiki.org is where you find the XWiki SDK and
how
to develop "on top" of XWiki.
This is the platform.
dev.xwiki.org is a bit confusing in this matter.
We should expose the
Platform and DevGuide more as "platform" is not
really clear (terms like
sdk or api are more common)
dev is about the xwiki development itself not how to develop on xwiki (as
indicated on the home page of dev.xwiki.org).
Otherwise I'm wondering what is the
difference between dev and design.
design.xwiki.org would be a subwiki of the dev wiki, linked from the home
of dev.xwiki.org.
Is it:
- dev is information for developers (processes, tools documentation
etc..)
yes
- design is information about improvements on
XWiki (actual action to
improve XWiki)
yes, also in the category of the development of xwiki (and not development
*in* xwiki).
Thanks
-Vincent
If so it is indeed relevant.. And indeed if we
had nested spaces and even
more "nested wikis", then it would make sense
to do it like that.
Ludovic
Le 22/11/10 14:51, Vincent Massol a écrit :
> Hi devs,
>
> In the same manner that we have playground.xwiki.org, I'd like to
propose
to have a design.xwiki.org wiki for putting our Designs and
Mockups (be them static or dynamic).
>
> Right now we have design and mockup information in 2 places:
> - http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
> - on incubator.myxwiki.org
>
> I'd like to propose that we merge them both on a new
http://design.xwiki.org wiki (using latest XE 2.6 version).
>
> Note: If we had support for nested spaces I'd have proposed that we do
it
on the existing dev.xwiki.org wiki but we'll probably need several
pages for each Design proposal.
>
> On design.xwiki.org I envision a home page listing all Design ideas
with the
ability to filter by state (implemented, in progress, dead). I
envision one space per design idea and each home page would contain a
DesignIdea object containing the metadata (status, etc). Similar to what we
have on http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/
>
> WDYT?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
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3:23 p.m.
On 11/23/2010 12:08 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
+1 if xwiki.org is more stable than incubator
Incubator should be more stable now as well.
I would also like IRC not listening to minor edits on
this wiki so people
could freely edit|comment the design pages. This means having a workable
wiki, not just a showroom|display one.
I'd rather have it enabled by default, but make the bot support a
"!silence design:Space.Page" command which will not notify updates on a
document for a period of time.
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