1 Sep
2010
1 Sep
'10
6:01 p.m.
I still strongly believe that user photos should appear in the stream before any click.
Especially for user updates instead of the "user.gif" icon.
Thanks
Jerome.
----- "Ecaterina Valica" <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Added:
- Application + User Changes
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ActivityStream…
- Feed + Filters
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ActivityStream…
Prototype:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamP3D
Thanks,
Caty
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:35, Fabio Mancinelli
<fabio.mancinelli(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
incompatible
with a document/user mixed-approched (I don't think either full
I think
On 08/30/2010 07:16 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
>> The "user centric" view, imho, is also useful because a
"user"
could
>> also be an application that sends events
(e.g., meeting or
deadlines
>> reminders, etc.) that can be shown in a
more natural way in a
user
>> centric view. Basically even
applications might share their
thoughts
through the activity stream ;)
I completely agree with the last sentence. BUT I think it's not document-centric or full user-centric can embrace
the versatility of
XWiki)
>
> I see two types of entries :
>
> * Document updates. Basically what is currently in latest
proposal
(though I would add little user pictures here as
well, even before
the
click). This is KM, collaboration, etc.
> * Users/applications updates. Those are less structured, more
a-la
facebook.
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamMixe…
picture, would have to be refined)
I see something like
(Note I
also have right-padded a bit more the
comment/annotation/pencil/etc icons that are
on top of user photos, they were a bit too masked by them)
I would have called that version
"user centric" as well since
documents
updates might be seen as posts done by the
"XWiki system" user :)
Anyway, I think that the mixed approach is fine.
-Fabio
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New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal][UX] Recent Changes Improvements
On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 19:01, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
I still strongly believe that user photos should
appear in the stream
before any click.
Especially for user updates instead of the "user.gif" icon.
k Jerome - I'll try that too.
Thanks
Thanks
Jerome.
----- "Ecaterina Valica" <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Added:
- Application + User Changes
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ActivityStream…
- Feed + Filters
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/ActivityStream…
Prototype:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamP3D
Thanks,
Caty
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:35, Fabio Mancinelli
<fabio.mancinelli(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
either full
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Improvements/ActivityStreamMixe…
On 08/30/2010 07:16 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
>> The "user centric" view, imho, is also useful because a
"user"
could
>> also be an application that sends events
(e.g., meeting or
deadlines
>> reminders, etc.) that can be shown in a
more natural way in a
user
>> centric view. Basically even
applications might share their
thoughts
>
through the activity stream ;)
I completely agree with the last sentence. BUT I think it's not
incompatible
with a document/user mixed-approched (I don't think document-centric or full user-centric can embrace
the versatility of
XWiki)
>
> I see two types of entries :
>
> * Document updates. Basically what is currently in latest
proposal
(though I would add little user pictures here as
well, even before
the
click). This is KM, collaboration, etc.
> * Users/applications updates. Those are less structured, more
a-la
facebook.
I see something like
picture, would have to be refined)
I think
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(Note I
also have right-padded a bit more the
comment/annotation/pencil/etc icons that are
on top of user photos, they were a bit too masked by them)
I would have called that version
"user centric" as well since
documents
updates might be seen as posts done by the
"XWiki system" user :)
Anyway, I think that the mixed approach is fine.
-Fabio
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10:26 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal][UX] Recent Changes Improvements
On 09/01/2010 06:01 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
I still strongly believe that user photos should
appear in the stream before any click.
Especially for user updates instead of the "user.gif" icon.
Thanks
Jerome.
Another little remark: I think that user (and application) updates
should be expanded by default without needing the user to click in order
to show the actual message.
-Fabio
10:43 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal][UX] Recent Changes Improvements
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:26, Fabio Mancinelli
<fabio.mancinelli(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
On 09/01/2010 06:01 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
I agree with this one, there are too many toggles for my taste right now,
it's a bit confusing :-)
Guillaume
I still strongly believe that user photos should
appear in the stream
before any click.
Especially for user updates instead of the "user.gif" icon.
Thanks
Jerome.
Another little remark: I think that user (and application) updates
should be expanded by default without needing the user to click in order
to show the actual message.
-Fabio
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New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal][UX] Recent Changes Improvements
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 11:43, Guillaume Lerouge <guillaume(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 10:26, Fabio Mancinelli
<fabio.mancinelli(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
If we gonna have in the future something like this
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/AvatarsProposa…
where we can put also the status in, then in order to see the status message
you could just hover the name of the user and you are not gonna have to
click on it.
For me, expanding statuses and application and not pages is inconsistency.
Also, we can have in the filters (don't know where) an "Expand / Collapse
All" option for people that have a certain preference in displaying.
On 09/01/2010 06:01 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
I still strongly believe that user photos should
appear in the stream
before any click.
Especially for user updates instead of the "user.gif" icon.
Thanks
Jerome.
Another little remark: I think that user (and application) updates
should be expanded by default without needing the user to click in order
to show the actual message.
I agree with this one, there are too many toggles for my taste right now,
it's a bit confusing :-)
some of the toggles in the prototype are broken - because well is a
prototype and as you see things change fast.
IMO, I like when things are not expanded because the interface is simpler
and you can focus on the entries that are relevant to you. Having so many
events (delete, edit, add, comment, annotate, attach, application, status,
pages, etc) is gonna be a mess if the items are gonna stay expanded.
Thanks,
Caty
Guillaume
-Fabio
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New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal][UX] Recent Changes Improvements
On 09/02/2010 11:13 AM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
IMHO, I think that the information and functionality of the "Changed
status" toggle adds unneeded complexity: when the user sees the avatar
icon in the activity stream she already knows that a "status has
changed", this information is already conveyed by the fact that an entry
of that type exists! Moreover a status update will contain, il 90% of
the cases, a single message so 90% of the "Changed status" expansion
will contain only 1 item.
For documents is different because changes can be a lot so the "4
changes by 3 contributors" conveys additional information.
What could be done to solve the "consistency" issue is to always display
the first item and hide the others in the collapsed list.
* So for single status updates you will have the status update directly
displayed.
* For multiple status updates by the same user you will have the last
one + a "3 more..." hidden behind the toggle
* For document updates with a single change you will just have the
change that has been done
* For documents with multiple changes you will have just the latest
change + "X more changes by Y contributors" toggle with the rest.
This would also solve the problem of having an activity stream filtered
only by "status updates" where the user has to click every time on
"expand all" in order to actually have the information which should be
available (and expected) by default.
WDYT?
-Fabio
> Another
little remark: I think that user (and application) updates
> should be expanded by default without needing the user to click in order
> to show the actual message.
If we gonna have in the future something like this
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/AvatarsProposa…
where we can put also the status in, then in order to see the status message
you could just hover the name of the user and you are not gonna have to
click on it.
For me, expanding statuses and application and not pages is inconsistency.
Also, we can have in the filters (don't know where) an "Expand / Collapse
All" option for people that have a certain preference in displaying.
12:05 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal][UX] Recent Changes Improvements
Hi,
On Thu, Sep 2, 2010 at 12:00, Fabio Mancinelli
<fabio.mancinelli(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
On 09/02/2010 11:13 AM, Ecaterina Valica wrote:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/AvatarsProposa…
I think that someone is spending a lot of time on facebook ;-) And I also
think it's a good idea and a great way to address the issue at hand.
Guillaume
>> Another little remark: I think that user
(and application) updates
>> should be expanded by default without needing the user to click in
order
> to
show the actual message.
If we gonna have in the future something like this
where we can put also the status in, then in
order to see the status
message
you could just hover the name of the user and you
are not gonna have to
click on it.
For me, expanding statuses and application and not pages is
inconsistency.
Also, we can have in the filters (don't know where) an "Expand /
Collapse
All" option for people that have a certain
preference in displaying.
IMHO, I think that the information and functionality of the "Changed
status" toggle adds unneeded complexity: when the user sees the avatar
icon in the activity stream she already knows that a "status has
changed", this information is already conveyed by the fact that an entry
of that type exists! Moreover a status update will contain, il 90% of
the cases, a single message so 90% of the "Changed status" expansion
will contain only 1 item.
For documents is different because changes can be a lot so the "4
changes by 3 contributors" conveys additional information.
What could be done to solve the "consistency" issue is to always display
the first item and hide the others in the collapsed list.
* So for single status updates you will have the status update directly
displayed.
* For multiple status updates by the same user you will have the last
one + a "3 more..." hidden behind the toggle
* For document updates with a single change you will just have the
change that has been done
* For documents with multiple changes you will have just the latest
change + "X more changes by Y contributors" toggle with the rest.
This would also solve the problem of having an activity stream filtered
only by "status updates" where the user has to click every time on
"expand all" in order to actually have the information which should be
available (and expected) by default.
WDYT?
-Fabio
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