1 Nov
2007
1 Nov
'07
10:45 p.m.
Hi Vincent,
I'm sorry to hear that.
In one of my previous mails
(http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2007-October/004346.html) I tried
to sketch the panels I'm going to put on the Stats page. I haven't got any
feedback since so I considered the layout was fine. Laurent's help with
the design would be appreciated. I can provide more details if needed.
Hi Marius,
Thanks for the feedback, see below.
On Oct 31, 2007, at 11:39 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
This is great news. I'd be more than happy to continue the work on the
WYSIWYG editor after I finish with the Stats page. Basically, I'm going to
develop a bunch of custom GWT widgets like the tool bar, status bar,
context
menu, rich text area, and so on, which are independent of the xwiki's
rendering mechanism. I'll plan this as soon as I'm done with the Stats,
and of course I'll let you know through devs list.
Hi,
Due to some technical problems I had over the past few days I
haven't been
able to stay online too much so I'm gonna catch up with you guys by
telling you about my work status.
1. The new GWT based WYSIWYG editor is in 'stand-by' mode until I
have an
API for the WikiModel. You can see what I've done so far at
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/NewWysiwygEditorBasedOnGwt#HThen…
.
I've had a talk yesterday with Ludovic and others and we think we need
to start again working on the WYSIWYG editor since it's really
important. However since the editor depends on the underlying
rendering mechanism the idea would be to work only on the UI part for
now so as to be prepared when the new rendering is done.
In term of priorities, I think you should finish first the Stats
features you're working on first and then move on to this if that's ok
with you. 2. Regarding the WikiModel, I scanned the code
from
http://code.google.com/p/wikimodel/, I followed the discussion on this
list and I read general stuff about Doxia. So I look forward to see
Vincent's API for the WikiModel+Doxia.
To be honest I'm disappointed by wikimodel. It's far less advanced
than I had initially thought (basically it's only interfaces right
now, even the parsers are not finished, and there are no listeners
written for XHTML, etc).
This is why I started looking at Doxia. My take is that the only
interesting solution for xwiki is if WikiModel could join Doxia (which
is more advanced and has more active contributors). I'm waiting for
Mikhail's decision on this. The Doxia team would be happy to embrace
his donation of wikimodel to Apache.
Looks like Mikhail has a tough decision to make. I bet he feels he's
loosing his "child". I know I would.
On my side, I've started playing with Doxia and I've started a XWiki
sink which allows converting from any doxia supported syntax to XWiki
(Confluence, TWiki, etc). I'm going to continue working on this since
1) it allows me to know the state of Doxia better and 2) it's useful
for us to have these conversion tools.
I also need to send a new summary email to see how the suggested
architecrture for the new XWiki rendering mechanism would work with
Doxia. I believe it would work exactly in the same manner as with
wikimodel though since they're very similar in their APIs.
Thus the following step for me is to create a xwiki-rendering module
in the core to start the rendering interfaces and the mapping to Doxia/
Wikimodel. Unfortunately I'm busy on stuff for Javapolis (new
xwiki.org web site + 1.2 release) and I'm working on this on a best
effort basis. I shall be able to progress much faster after JP.
I look forward to seeing your proposal.
3. I've created a plug-in wrapper for the
JodaTime framework that is
now
available in both standard and enterprise distributions. I still
have to
write some selenium tests for it and of course the documentation on
xwiki.org, in the code/plugins area. You can find more details at
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-1820.
4. I'm currently working on the Stats page. I almost finished
implementing
the java part and the next step will be to create the stats (in page)
panels using velocity and the chart macro. See
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XE-37 for more details.
Could you provide more details on this? Some questions:
1) Could you show us the UI part of what you're designing or what
you're planning to implement? Maybe you could also ask Laurent Lunati
for his help on the design part? 2) Does your work require any change to the XWiki
Platform Core? Or is
it just changes at the application level (XAR)? If there are changes
in the core what are the?
Yes, I made some changes to the core and I'll add some docs to the
enterprise XAR. See
http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2007-October/004344.html for more
details.
3) What is your target date for finishing this task?
We need to plan
in which version we can have it (and we need it sooner rather than
later ;)).
If you look at
http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2007-October/004344.html you'll see
there 8 steps. I've just started the 6th step. Here's my planning:
step 6 : 1 day
step 7 : 3 days
step 8 : 1 day
debugging : 1 day
unexpected : 1 day
------------------
7 working days, starting from November 5th
So I hope I'll be able to show you the new Stats page on November 14th. Is
this ok?. Tomorrow (November 2nd) I'll finish with the jodatime plugin
(selenium tests and xwiki.org documentation).
Thanks Marius for this feedback and the work you're doing!
-Vincent
Thanks Vincent for your support!
-Marius
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6 Nov
11:17 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] GWT WYSIWYG+Wikimodel/Doxia+Stats (was Re: work status)
Hi Marius,
On Nov 1, 2007, at 10:45 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
[snip]
This is great news. I'd be more than happy to continue the work on the
WYSIWYG editor after I finish with the Stats page. Basically, I'm
going to
develop a bunch of custom GWT widgets like the tool bar, status bar,
context
menu, rich text area, and so on, which are independent of the xwiki's
rendering mechanism.
cool. Make sure you communicate what you do when you start it. Ludovic
has had the most experience with GWT and it would be good to validate
your design with him on this list.
[snip]
In one of my previous mails
(http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2007-October/004346.html) I
tried
to sketch the panels I'm going to put on the Stats page. I haven't
got any
feedback since so I considered the layout was fine. Laurent's help
with
the design would be appreciated. I can provide more details if needed.
Yes you're right. Unfortunately people are often busy on other stuff
and they don't always check the list as they should... ;)
Regarding this stats implementation I know that at least the following
developers are interested in the topic:
- Ludovic
- Thomas (since he's the XEM lead and these stats have to be
integrated in XEM)
- myself (since I'm the XE lead)
I have answered to you already as to what I'd like to have in XE.
However it would be good if you could proactively ping Ludovic and/or
Thomas to ensure what you're doing is fine with them too.
Just talked to you about this and replied to the list.
As agreed we'll split the java part from the ui part and include the
java part in 1.2M2.
Thanks
-Vincent
1. The new GWT based WYSIWYG editor is in
'stand-by' mode until I
have an
API for the WikiModel. You can see what I've done so far at
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/NewWysiwygEditorBasedOnGwt#HThen…
.
I've had a talk yesterday with Ludovic and others and we think we
need
to start again working on the WYSIWYG editor since it's really
important. However since the editor depends on the underlying
rendering mechanism the idea would be to work only on the UI part for
now so as to be prepared when the new rendering is done.
In term of priorities, I think you should finish first the Stats
features you're working on first and then move on to this if that's
ok
with you. 4. I'm currently working on the Stats page. I
almost finished
implementing
the java part and the next step will be to create the stats (in
page)
panels using velocity and the chart macro. See
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XE-37 for more details.
Could you provide more details on this? Some questions:
1) Could you show us the UI part of what you're designing or what
you're planning to implement? Maybe you could also ask Laurent Lunati
for his help on the design part? 2) Does your
work require any change to the XWiki Platform Core? Or
is
it just changes at the application level (XAR)? If there are changes
in the core what are the?
Yes, I made some changes to the core and I'll add some docs to the
enterprise XAR. See
http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2007-October/004344.html for
more
details. 3) What is
your target date for finishing this task? We need to plan
in which version we can have it (and we need it sooner rather than
later ;)).
If you look at
http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2007-October/004344.html
you'll see
there 8 steps. I've just started the 6th step. Here's my planning:
step 6 : 1 day
step 7 : 3 days
step 8 : 1 day
debugging : 1 day
unexpected : 1 day
------------------
7 working days, starting from November 5th
So I hope I'll be able to show you the new Stats page on November
14th. Is
this ok?. Tomorrow (November 2nd) I'll finish with the jodatime plugin
(selenium tests and xwiki.org documentation). 
12:28 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] GWT WYSIWYG+Wikimodel/Doxia+Stats (was Re: work status)
XEM will use statistics thought XE. It will just expose it adding
muli-wikis concept. For me it seems ok with what I seen in you mails.
Anyway good job Marius :)
2007/11/6, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
Hi Marius,
On Nov 1, 2007, at 10:45 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
[snip]
This is great news. I'd be more than happy to continue the work on the
WYSIWYG editor after I finish with the Stats page. Basically, I'm
going to
develop a bunch of custom GWT widgets like the tool bar, status bar,
context
menu, rich text area, and so on, which are independent of the xwiki's
rendering mechanism.
cool. Make sure you communicate what you do when you start it. Ludovic
has had the most experience with GWT and it would be good to validate
your design with him on this list.
[snip]
In one of my previous mails
(http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2007-October/004346.html) I
tried
to sketch the panels I'm going to put on the Stats page. I haven't
got any
feedback since so I considered the layout was fine. Laurent's help
with
the design would be appreciated. I can provide more details if needed.
Yes you're right. Unfortunately people are often busy on other stuff
and they don't always check the list as they should... ;)
Regarding this stats implementation I know that at least the following
developers are interested in the topic:
- Ludovic
- Thomas (since he's the XEM lead and these stats have to be
integrated in XEM)
- myself (since I'm the XE lead)
I have answered to you already as to what I'd like to have in XE.
However it would be good if you could proactively ping Ludovic and/or
Thomas to ensure what you're doing is fine with them too.
Just talked to you about this and replied to the list.
As agreed we'll split the java part from the ui part and include the
java part in 1.2M2.
Thanks
-Vincent
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1. The new GWT based WYSIWYG editor is in
'stand-by' mode until I
have an
API for the WikiModel. You can see what I've done so far at
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/NewWysiwygEditorBasedOnGwt#HThen…
.
I've had a talk yesterday with Ludovic and others and we think we
need
to start again working on the WYSIWYG editor since it's really
important. However since the editor depends on the underlying
rendering mechanism the idea would be to work only on the UI part for
now so as to be prepared when the new rendering is done.
In term of priorities, I think you should finish first the Stats
features you're working on first and then move on to this if that's
ok
with you. 4. I'm currently working on the Stats page. I
almost finished
implementing
the java part and the next step will be to create the stats (in
page)
panels using velocity and the chart macro. See
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XE-37 for more details.
Could you provide more details on this? Some questions:
1) Could you show us the UI part of what you're designing or what
you're planning to implement? Maybe you could also ask Laurent Lunati
for his help on the design part? 2) Does
your work require any change to the XWiki Platform Core? Or
is
it just changes at the application level (XAR)? If there are changes
in the core what are the?
Yes, I made some changes to the core and I'll add some docs to the
enterprise XAR. See
http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2007-October/004344.html for
more
details. 3) What
is your target date for finishing this task? We need to plan
in which version we can have it (and we need it sooner rather than
later ;)).
If you look at
http://lists.xwiki.org/pipermail/devs/2007-October/004344.html
you'll see
there 8 steps. I've just started the 6th step. Here's my planning:
step 6 : 1 day
step 7 : 3 days
step 8 : 1 day
debugging : 1 day
unexpected : 1 day
------------------
7 working days, starting from November 5th
So I hope I'll be able to show you the new Stats page on November
14th. Is
this ok?. Tomorrow (November 2nd) I'll finish with the jodatime plugin
(selenium tests and xwiki.org documentation).
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