I would also make the Page Menu step more detailed, explaining each icon (pencil, etc). Thanks -Vincent

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote: The "Getting Started" page is already presented in the content of the Homepage + in the Tips panel. The Feature pages is focused on functionality and guides the user to know where to look for more info. Thanks, Caty

Hi, Same remarks as Vincent, as I feel we should at least expand the More Actions and the Drawer... and probably show each Docextra tabs. Maybe not go through each button/element/component in the UI, but at least expand/show/make them visible. +1 for the overall proposal and current progress. Thanks, Eduard On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:06 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:

Actually the breadcrumb allows both up and down. That was my point in earlier feeback, it’s missing showing how to navigate down. Thanks -Vincent

You mean “reference” mode (which is the default). We do need to explain that he can click the arrow and get a sibling + children view. I’d put a screenshot example in the step of doing that. Thanks -Vincent

Votes so far: +1 (Marius), +1 (Edy), +1 (GD), +1 (Caty), +1 (Caleb) Vincent and Caleb had some remarks that I hope I gave an answer why I would not change them in this version. Thanks, Caty On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau < guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote:

And thus, that it’s a key feature to navigate (up and down). Thanks -Vincent

Votes so far: 6 = +1 (Marius), +1 (Edy), +1 (GD), +1 (Caty), +1 (Caleb), +1 (Vincent) Thanks, Caty On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:44 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) &lt;valicac(a)gmail.com > > > On Wed, Jun 8, 2016 at 3:36 PM, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net> >> >> > On 08 Jun 2016, at 14:34, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net>> > >> > >> >> On 08 Jun 2016, at 13:34, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) &lt;valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> >> >> >> Votes so far: >> >> +1 (Marius), +1 (Edy), +1 (GD), +1 (Caty), +1 (Caleb) >> > >> > I definitely agree to have the tour in XWiki 8.2. > > > This agreement was not explicit. > > >> Note that I’ve already said so and this is not a vote mail: this is a >> proposal. You keep asking for votes but you send proposals; IMO you should >> send [VOTE] emails if you want votes, otherwise it’s just about giving >> opinions/remarks/etc, saying you like it or not, etc. >> > > >> >> Vincent and Caleb had some remarks that I hope I gave an answer why I >> would >> >> not change them in this version. >> > >> > Yes and I don’t agree with all of your explanations. I certainly don’t >> agree that we shouldn’t show/explain that there’s a tree in the breadcrumb. >> >> And thus, that it’s a key feature to navigate (up and down). >> > > It would be helpful if you could provide the proposal text for the > Breadcrumb step. > > Thanks, > Caty > > > >> >> Thanks >> -Vincent >> >> > Thanks >> > -Vincent >> > >> >> Thanks, >> >> Caty >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 10:26 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau < >> >> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com>> >> >> >>> I like it too. Can't wait to see it on xwiki :) >> >>> >> >>> 2016-06-02 17:55 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt;et>: >> >>> >> >>>> >> >>>>> On 02 Jun 2016, at 17:16, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >> valicac(a)gmail.com >> >>>> >> >>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 6:11 PM, Caleb James DeLisle &lt;cjd(a)cjdns.fr&gt; >> >>>>> >>>>> >> >>>>>> Excellent ! This is what people really need. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Some suggestions which you might adopt if you like them (but don't >> let >> >>>> me >> >>>>>> get in the way of you doing great stuff). >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 1. >> >>>>>> "In the next couple of minutes you will discover your wiki's >> interface >> >>>> and >> >>>>>> basic functionalities." >> >>>>>> Should point to an icon somewhere (in the applications section?) >> which >> >>>>>> will start the tour and then >> >>>>>> it says "Take a the XWiki Tour. Or you can close this window and >> then >> >>>>>> click here to take the tour later." >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> There is a Tooltip at the bottom of the page from where you can >> launch >> >>>> the >> >>>>> Tour anytime you want. Also the Tour's homepage can launch tours. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 2. >> >>>>>> "The breadcrumbs allow you to identify where your page is located >> and >> >>>>>> navigate *up* the hierarchy." >> >>>>>> UP the hirearchy >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> You can also go 'DOWN' if you are in a nested node. >> >>>> >> >>>> You mean “reference” mode (which is the default). >> >>>> >> >>>>> Not sure why we should >> >>>>> explicitly say up. Especially since we are in the Home page, which >> in >> >>>>> theory is the first node. >> >>>> >> >>>> We do need to explain that he can click the arrow and get a sibling + >> >>>> children view. I’d put a screenshot example in the step of doing >> that. >> >>>> >> >>>> Thanks >> >>>> -Vincent >> >>>> >> >>>>> 3. >> >>>>>> -"The current panels allow you to access your wiki's applications >> and >> >>>>>> pages." >> >>>>>> +"Access the applications in your wiki, administrators can install >> >>> more >> >>>>>> and customize which ones appear" >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 4. >> >>>>>> -"edit, create, administer or delete pages" >> >>>>>> +"edit, create, delete or change permissions on pages" >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> We've used the order of appearance in the content menu. But I've >> heard >> >>>> this >> >>>>> comment at least 3 times. Maybe we could change the order. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> 5. >> >>>>>> "The <hamburgermenu> button, opens a Drawer which contains wiki >> >>> related >> >>>>>> actions, like Administration and Indexes." >> >>>>>> Please please please tell users this is where they need to go to >> >>> login, >> >>>>>> actually we might need to make login more obvious >> >>>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>> If they installed with EM they are already logged-in. Lots of other >> >>>>> applications provide the log-in function inside the Drawer, but the >> >>>>> findability indeed could be problematic for some users. >> >>>>> >> >>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>> Caty >> >>>>> >> >>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> I think we're ready for this to be in production ASAP so lets say >> with >> >>>> or >> >>>>>> without these cosmetic changes >> >>>>>> this is a huge benefit and very important. >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Big +1 >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> Caleb >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>> On 02/06/16 16:51, Alexandru Cotiuga wrote: >> >>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Hello, >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> This proposal is about implementing a tour guide for the Homepage >> of >> >>>> the >> >>>>>>> main wiki. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> This is the prototype: >> >>>>>>> >> >>>> >> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/HomepageTour/Prototype/ >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Feedback is welcomed. >> >>>>>>> >> >>>>>>> Thanks, >> >>>>>>> Alex and Caty >> > _______________________________________________ >> > devs mailing list >> > devs(a)xwiki.org >> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> devs(a)xwiki.org >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > >