Hi, I keep trying to understand how does this work. I've drawn a schema from what Sergiu explained to me, what I've not used any standard to represent files, objects or processes. Please, could you propose any existing standard to try to better represent what is happening in the whole process? Thanks. Here it is the diagram... http://xepecnet.environmentalchange.net/xwiki/bin/view/ICT/Export As per the creation of the rtf/pdf or whatever format is possible to create from a xsl-fo document, it seems that there are two points to "inject" CSS rules for the formatting: pdf.css and/or any ad hoc template. Please, what do we need pdf.css? I've created a XWiki.PDFClass class with style as only property. Then, I've created a new document, instantiated XWiki.PDFClass and tried with some simple CSS rules like these: h1 { font-size: 30px; color: red;} h2 { font-size: 30px; color: green;} h3 { font-size: 60px; } Those rules work fine. Both in the template and in pdf.css. But I am not able to change margins, spaces before and after any hx paragraph,... I guess that any rule not accepted in pdf.css, won't be accepted in a template. After all, both set of rules are used by css4j. It this is true, only xhtml2fo.xls seems the only solution to get a customized output. Please, am I right? Is the use of templates documented anywhere? Sorry for posting such an amount of queries with no answer. To control minimally the appearance of a exported rtf file is a must for me right now. As Sergiu said, if we found a suitable library, to export do Word format could be contemplated. I don't know if the GSoC project on Office Import could relate with this export issue. But until any of these advanced issues crystallizes, please, could you point me to a way to getting at least the separation of paragraphs and font for paragraphs controlled by CSS during the export action? Thank you so much, Ricardo [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team wrote: -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team

Hi Ricardo, On May 18, 2008, at 4:01 PM, [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team wrote: The diagram is not completely correct. The PDFClass's xhtmlxsl and fopxsl properties are not indicated correctly. The xhtmlxsl one overrides (replaces, if defined) the default xhtml2fo.xsl one and the fopxsl one overrides (replaces, if defined) the fop.xsl one. Also the style property doesn't replace the pdf.css file (and not pdf.class as mentioned on the diagram) but comes in addition to it. The resulting CSS is pdf.css + the css specified in the style property. Thanks -Vincent

On May 18, 2008, at 11:17 PM, [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team wrote: a XSL Transformation. I don't know offhand sorry. Thanks -Vincent

Sergiu, Vicent, Thanks for your inputs. Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: OK. Please, could you take a look to the modified diagram? My main concern is to find a "standard" way of representing processes within XWiki. I know I am not the only one looking for such a thing! :-) So, any idea will be welcome. http://tinyurl.com/3ge3me I think the pieces are now clear for me. A quite different thing is to be able to deal with each of them to modify the output. Is this a Radeox bug or does it make sense in this environment? As for heading margins, I've been playing with a rtf file with different indentations and margins applied to headings and paragraphs. It seems to move fine at least between Word, Pages and OpenOffice. In Mac, Suse Linux and Windows. As far as I see, the next step for me is to configure a developing environment for XWiki here and learn at least how to trap at least the two intermediary XHTMLs and the XSL-FO documents to keep track of changes and issues. Please, if you have any idea about how to modify heading margins, pictures size and <p> appearance, it will be really welcome! Thanks! -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team

Hi Vincent, Vincent Massol wrote: Glad to know you consider it can be useful! I will follow your guidelines as soon as possible. This Flowchart entry in Wikipedia is also an useful reminder about this topic. I used these symbols time ago, but I have not a clear idea about how to draw a "small" diagram with the pieces/languages described there. I will investigate further from this document. Thanks! Best regards, Ricardo -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team

On May 24, 2008, at 1:06 AM, [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team wrote: I've checked http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/DevGuide/Architecture and I don't see anything wrong with it. You should be able to edit it just fine. Same for http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/AdminGuide/Configuration Are these the pages you were trying to edit? Thanks -Vincent

Apparently we have a big bug, possibly in XE 1.4 since we just upgraded 2 days ago... -Vincent On May 24, 2008, at 11:57 PM, [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team wrote:

Vincent Massol wrote: As far as I can see, the wiki is working correctly, but the rights are wrongly set. Guest is explicitly allowed view rights, and this implicitly denies view rights to all other users. It has always been like this. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/

On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 3:54 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu &lt;sergiu(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: Yes but xwiki:XWiki.XWikiAllGroup and all the other groups have explicit view rights too. -- Jean-Vincent Drean

Yes I removed this code as it can do anything cause of : String database = context.getDatabase(); [...] if (!database.equals(context.getDatabase())) { [...] } And it was like that since a long time ago when I reviewed the svn history... On Mon, May 26, 2008 at 4:06 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu &lt;sergiu(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: -- Thomas Mortagne

Thanks Vincent, all! I will regain access to this thread once back in my place. I am on the road now. Greetings, Ricardo Vincent Massol wrote: -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team

[Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team wrote: It is a bug, but an unfixable one. The problem is that Radeox works with regular expressions, and regular expressions are not strong enough to capture an paragraph. We could try to use a newer version of fop and css4j. I already updated fop in the trunk. css4j needs some testing, as the version we're using is pretty old (0.4, compared to 0.9.1), and the API might have changed. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/

[Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team wrote: I managed to get those margins in pdf and rtf, using the 0.95beta release of fop (now used in the trunk). You should take into account the different bugs css4j has (most of them are still present in the most recent version). So, I have this working: h2 { margin-left: 2cm; margin-bottom: 1cm; color: yellow; } You can also use margin: 1cm; to set all 4 margins to the same length, but you cannot use margin: 2cm 0cm 1cm; to set different values. Also, you cannot use !important. You just have to upgrade http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/xmlgraphics/fop/0.95beta-1/fop-0.9… and http://repo1.maven.org/maven2/org/apache/xmlgraphics/xmlgraphics-commons/1.… (replace the older jars in WEB-INF/libs) Well, TeX is different, because fop only accepts xsl-fo documents as its input, and TeX is a standalone applications hard to combine with a Java application directly. -- Sergiu Dumitriu http://purl.org/net/sergiu/

On May 21, 2008, at 8:37 AM, [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team wrote: [snip] It depends on your timeframe. If you can wait till September then the new rendering mechanism should (hopefully) be in place. Please read http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/NewRenderingArchitecture if you want to know how it'll work. Thanks -Vincent

Hi, [Ricardo Rodriguez] Your EPEC Network ICT Team wrote: I've replaced the concerned files but I keep getting weird results. Briefly: 1. I am still using XE 1.3.8295 2. I've replaced the concerned libs following your instruction. Tomcat was restarted. 3. On right margin and color seems to work. 4. There is a number of error entries in catalina.out. Here you can find it... http://tinyurl.com/3lvonz I am using this sample documet... http://tinyurl.com/6n348s With this CSS held in XWikiPDFTemplate. It seem that only first heading rule causes any effect. The other ones simply have no effect. Here the current content in XWiki.PDFTemplate.stylus... h3 { margin-left: 2cm; margin-bottom: 1cm; color: red; } h2 { margin: 3cm; color: yellow; } And here the generated rtf file... http://tinyurl.com/658vy5 I hope any of this information makes any sense for you. Thanks for your help, Ricardo -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team

Hi, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: Removed! Colors and margin do work, but margin-left doesn't. Does it work for you? Thanks! Cheers, Ricardo -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team

Thanks. So, I have to update my XWiki XE and then try again. Thanks for your help. Best, Ricardo Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team

Ummm... Thanks, Sergiu. This is the rtf I get... http://tinyurl.com/6npxe4 and by opening it using Word:mac 2008 or some different Word for Windows flavours I see this... http://tinyurl.com/54uu4f If you see the right margin by opening this rtf in OpenOffice 3, something is wrong with this rtf file being interpreted by Word! Thanks for your help, Ricardo Sergiu Dumitriu wrote: -- Ricardo Rodríguez Your EPEC Network ICT Team