11 Jan
2011
11 Jan
'11
12:30 p.m.
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
11 Jan
11 Jan
1:41 p.m.
+1 Good idea!
Thanks,
Marius
On 01/11/2011 01:30 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
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1:44 p.m.
*Another idea 2*: how about we add some CSS3 in the 3.0 cycle? :)
We could make it optional in a new css3.css, just like the accessibility
stylesheet, for the ones that want their css valid 2.1 or the ones with old
browsers usage that don't need it.
The main changes for this stylesheet would be support of gradients
(background, menus, buttons) regardless of the used color theme. See:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Administration…
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Administration…
*Another idea 3*: Sergiu once proposed to have the new community logo for
the 3.0 cycle
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-de…
and we could make a color theme using the colors from the logo.
Thanks,
Caty
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 13:30, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
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3:23 p.m.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
*Another idea 2*: how about we add some CSS3 in the
3.0 cycle? :)
We could make it optional in a new css3.css, just like the accessibility
stylesheet, for the ones that want their css valid 2.1 or the ones with old
browsers usage that don't need it.
The main changes for this stylesheet would be support of gradients
(background, menus, buttons) regardless of the used color theme. See:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Administration…
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Administration…
*Another idea 3*: Sergiu once proposed to have the new community logo for
the 3.0 cycle
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-de…
and we could make a color theme using the colors from the logo.
+1 to add the new community logo.
I know that no final decision has been made regarding the new logo.
But I also know that proposal 16 gathered the higher score on the
second voting round, so maybe we could consider it as being the
official logo and work on refining it (see for example
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-va…
- just a personal preference, but it's an example).
Otherwise, a new voting round should be organized.
Raluca.
Thanks,
Caty
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 13:30, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
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4:25 p.m.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:44 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
*Another idea 2*: how about we add some CSS3 in the
3.0 cycle? :)
We could make it optional in a new css3.css, just like the accessibility
stylesheet, for the ones that want their css valid 2.1 or the ones with old
browsers usage that don't need it.
The main changes for this stylesheet would be support of gradients
(background, menus, buttons) regardless of the used color theme. See:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Administration…
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Administration…
Definitely. It would deserve another thread IMO.
The css3.css should be activated by default in my opinion.
*Another idea 3*: Sergiu once proposed to have the new community logo for
the 3.0 cycle
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-de…
and we could make a color theme using the colors from the logo.
Yes
Thanks,
Caty
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 13:30, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
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9:10 p.m.
Hi
Le 11 janv. 2011 à 13:44, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) a écrit :
*Another idea 2*: how about we add some CSS3 in the
3.0 cycle? :)
+1 !
We could make it optional in a new css3.css, just like
the accessibility
stylesheet, for the ones that want their css valid 2.1 or the ones with old
browsers usage that don't need it.
The main changes for this stylesheet would be support of gradients
(background, menus, buttons) regardless of the used color theme. See:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Administration…
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/Administration…
*Another idea 3*: Sergiu once proposed to have the new community logo for
the 3.0 cycle
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Community/LogoChallengeRound2/16-de…
and we could make a color theme using the colors from the logo.
-1, stop me if i am
wrong, the logo is not finally voted, and not implemented anywhere
Thanks,
Caty
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 13:30, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
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3:06 p.m.
Hello,
The way I see the insertion / creation of additional themes is not
necessary by adding new themes to the default XE distribution, but
making possible a way to download new themes created by the community
members (giving the fact that it's so easy to create a Color Theme).
For example, community members could add new themes as extensions
(http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/) and a link to these
extensions of type Theme could be added on Themes.WebHome page.
The main idea is that I would prefer for the community to add and
'exchange' themes on xwiki.org. This way we would encourage the
implication of the community members and we would also encourage
creativity and diversity.
Something new on the default distribution could be related to CSS3 support.
Caty has made at one point a very nice Color Theme based on CSS3. And
since we talk about dropping IE6 support on 3.0, I think that this
would be a proper time to insert more interesting visual elements.
Raluca.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
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3:30 p.m.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 4:06 PM, Raluca Stavro <raluca.morosan(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello,
The way I see the insertion / creation of additional themes is not
necessary by adding new themes to the default XE distribution, but
making possible a way to download new themes created by the community
members (giving the fact that it's so easy to create a Color Theme).
For example, community members could add new themes as extensions
(http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/) and a link to these
extensions of type Theme could be added on Themes.WebHome page.
Correction: ColorThemes.WebHome.
Raluca.
The main idea is that I would prefer for the community
to add and
'exchange' themes on xwiki.org. This way we would encourage the
implication of the community members and we would also encourage
creativity and diversity.
Something new on the default distribution could be related to CSS3 support.
Caty has made at one point a very nice Color Theme based on CSS3. And
since we talk about dropping IE6 support on 3.0, I think that this
would be a proper time to insert more interesting visual elements.
Raluca.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
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6:08 p.m.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 3:06 PM, Raluca Stavro <raluca.morosan(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello,
The way I see the insertion / creation of additional themes is not
necessary by adding new themes to the default XE distribution, but
making possible a way to download new themes created by the community
members (giving the fact that it's so easy to create a Color Theme).
For example, community members could add new themes as extensions
(http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/) and a link to these
extensions of type Theme could be added on Themes.WebHome page.
The main idea is that I would prefer for the community to add and
'exchange' themes on xwiki.org. This way we would encourage the
implication of the community members and we would also encourage
creativity and diversity.
Sure, but that's not incompatible with changing/refreshing the themes
we bundle by default.
What we could do however is add a "Color theme" category of extension
on http://extension.xwiki.org
Something new on the default distribution could be related to CSS3 support.
Caty has made at one point a very nice Color Theme based on CSS3. And
since we talk about dropping IE6 support on 3.0, I think that this
would be a proper time to insert more interesting visual elements.
In my opinion those are separate concerns.
Color themes (or skins) with CSS3 should degrade nicely.
Jerome.
Raluca.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
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8:17 p.m.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 16:06, Raluca Stavro <raluca.morosan(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
Hello,
The way I see the insertion / creation of additional themes is not
necessary by adding new themes to the default XE distribution, but
making possible a way to download new themes created by the community
members (giving the fact that it's so easy to create a Color Theme).
For example, community members could add new themes as extensions
(http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/) and a link to these
extensions of type Theme could be added on Themes.WebHome page.
The main idea is that I would prefer for the community to add and
'exchange' themes on xwiki.org. This way we would encourage the
implication of the community members and we would also encourage
creativity and diversity.
I've added a "ColorTheme" type to the extensions page. This can be sorted
on
the homepage http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/
I've also added a ColorTheme example: Cracker
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Cracker+ColorTheme
I'll add more and I hope this is the beginning of a major ColorTheme
collection :P
Thanks,
Caty
Something new on the default distribution could be related to CSS3 support.
Caty has made at one point a very nice Color Theme based on CSS3. And
since we talk about dropping IE6 support on 3.0, I think that this
would be a proper time to insert more interesting visual elements.
Raluca.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
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10:38 p.m.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 8:17 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 16:06, Raluca Stavro
<raluca.morosan(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
That's great. Count on me !
Jerome.
Hello,
The way I see the insertion / creation of additional themes is not
necessary by adding new themes to the default XE distribution, but
making possible a way to download new themes created by the community
members (giving the fact that it's so easy to create a Color Theme).
For example, community members could add new themes as extensions
(http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/) and a link to these
extensions of type Theme could be added on Themes.WebHome page.
The main idea is that I would prefer for the community to add and
'exchange' themes on xwiki.org. This way we would encourage the
implication of the community members and we would also encourage
creativity and diversity.
I've added a "ColorTheme" type to the extensions page. This can be sorted
on
the homepage http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/
I've also added a ColorTheme example: Cracker
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Cracker+ColorTheme
I'll add more and I hope this is the beginning of a major ColorTheme
collection :P
Thanks,
Caty
Something new on the default distribution could be related to CSS3 support.
Caty has made at one point a very nice Color Theme based on CSS3. And
since we talk about dropping IE6 support on 3.0, I think that this
would be a proper time to insert more interesting visual elements.
Raluca.
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Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
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4:27 p.m.
BTW, I've just played with the color theme editor, and created a theme
for the Reader application :
http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9788/readertheme.png
I think a background with gradient works pretty well when combined
with dark menu bar. We could do something like this for this new
theme, what do you think ? (I've never been a big fan of the strong
menu bar colors on white background as we have right now with the
default theme, I think such gradient fixes that issue)
Jerome.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 12:30 PM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
12 Jan
12 Jan
12:02 p.m.
Hello,
Good idea about having new color themes for XE in the 3.0 cycle.
+1 for css3.css activated by default (or part of colibri.css).
CSS3 is very widely used now around the web and it is no longer seen as a
fancy technology but as a necessity.
I don`t see the CSS validation as a problem since even the
http://www.w3.org/ website doesn`t validate due to CSS3 rules.
Thanks,
Ciprian.
On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
Jérôme.
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13 Jan
11:39 p.m.
On 01/11/2011 12:30 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
+1, but it should be something more than just different colors. By
editing the object directly we can write advanced CSS (3) properties
instead of simple colors, which would allow to add gradients, more
background images, etc.
This is a cheap way for us to refresh the look and to
differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
-0, we should:
- design better looking color themes that would emphasize the strength
of color themes
- remove the existing ones that aren't good enough
- link to the extensions wiki for more color themes
- put any additional color themes in the extensions wiki
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14 Jan
14 Jan
8:17 a.m.
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
OK, you mean replace or improve, I agree with that.
Jerome.
On 01/11/2011 12:30 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
It means it's not editable from the WYSIWYG interface after that ?
I'm not convinced if that the case.
Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
+1, but it should be something more than just different colors. By
editing the object directly we can write advanced CSS (3) properties
instead of simple colors, which would allow to add gradients, more
background images, etc.
This is a
cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
-0, we should:
- design better looking color themes that would emphasize the strength
of color themes
- remove the existing ones that aren't good enough
- link to the extensions wiki for more color themes
- put any additional color themes in the extensions wiki
--
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On 01/14/2011 08:17 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Sergiu
Dumitriu<sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Most of it will be editable (color pickers). The background-image UI is
still displayed as a text input, and it's there where most of the custom
styling can be placed. It just means that instead of putting the name of
an attachment in that input, the users will see some complex CSS, like:
Banner (header image - the name of an image attached to the theme document)
------------------------------------------------
| -moz-gradient(linear, #900, #993);
| background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(...);
| border-radius: 1em;
------------------------------------------------
It's not exactly kosher, but it's not uneditable using the wizard.
On 01/11/2011 12:30 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
It means it's not editable from the WYSIWYG interface after that ? Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
+1, but it should be something more than just different colors. By
editing the object directly we can write advanced CSS (3) properties
instead of simple colors, which would allow to add gradients, more
background images, etc.
I'm not convinced if that the case.
OK, you mean replace or improve, I agree with that.
Jerome.
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http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
This is a
cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
-0, we should:
- design better looking color themes that would emphasize the strength
of color themes
- remove the existing ones that aren't good enough
- link to the extensions wiki for more color themes
- put any additional color themes in the extensions wiki
4:29 p.m.
On Fri, Jan 14, 2011 at 4:15 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On 01/14/2011 08:17 AM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
Most of it will be editable (color pickers). The background-image UI is
still displayed as a text input, and it's there where most of the custom
styling can be placed. It just means that instead of putting the name of
an attachment in that input, the users will see some complex CSS, like:
Banner (header image - the name of an image attached to the theme document)
------------------------------------------------
| -moz-gradient(linear, #900, #993);
| background-image: -webkit-linear-gradient(...);
| border-radius: 1em;
------------------------------------------------
It's not exactly kosher, but it's not uneditable using the wizard.
OK, then it's fine I think. I was afraid it would be really hidden.
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 11:39 PM, Sergiu
Dumitriu<sergiu(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
On 01/11/2011 12:30 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
It means it's not editable from the WYSIWYG interface after that ? Hello friends,
What about we create and set default a new color theme for XE, in the
3.0 cycle ?
+1, but it should be something more than just different colors. By
editing the object directly we can write advanced CSS (3) properties
instead of simple colors, which would allow to add gradients, more
background images, etc.
I'm not
convinced if that the case.
OK, you mean replace or improve, I agree with that.
Jerome.
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This is a
cheap way for us to refresh the look and to differentiate
3.x visually ?
We could aslo have new additional themes, besides the default one.
-0, we should:
- design better looking color themes that would emphasize the strength
of color themes
- remove the existing ones that aren't good enough
- link to the extensions wiki for more color themes
- put any additional color themes in the extensions wiki
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