7 Nov
2008
7 Nov
'08
6:08 a.m.
What is the best term:
1. blog post
2. blog article
3. blog entry
Others?
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7 Nov
7 Nov
9:11 a.m.
On Nov 7, 2008, at 6:08 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
What is the best term:
1. blog post
2. blog article
3. blog entry
Others?
Answer: http://www.meryl.net/2007/04/blog-vs-postentry/
To summarize one *posts* *entries* in their blog and entries can be
*articles*, polls, bookmarks, etc.
post = the act of adding an entry
entry = the blog item being added
article = one type of blog entry content
Thus I propose to use "blog entry".
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
10:09 a.m.
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Nov 7, 2008, at 6:08 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Wordpress lets users write new posts. Thus I'd go for "blog post".
"Blog
entry" doesn't sound as intuitive to me.
Guillaume
What is the best term:
1. blog post
2. blog article
3. blog entry
Others?
Answer: http://www.meryl.net/2007/04/blog-vs-postentry/
To summarize one *posts* *entries* in their blog and entries can be
*articles*, polls, bookmarks, etc.
post = the act of adding an entry
entry = the blog item being added
article = one type of blog entry content
Thus I propose to use "blog entry".
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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10:25 a.m.
I`m thinking of the action the user is doing; so, how would it sound
better in the user's mind:
- Make a new blog post
or
- Post a new (blog entry / entry in the blog)
Think of the common expression "log entry". A Blog, as earlier stated is
a Web Log so, the obvious choice for me would be "blog entry".
I`m +1 for "blog entry" and the action of posting.
Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Nov 7, 2008, at 6:08 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu
wrote:
Wordpress lets users write new posts. Thus I'd go for "blog post".
"Blog
entry" doesn't sound as intuitive to me.
Guillaume
What is the best term:
1. blog post
2. blog article
3. blog entry
Others?
Answer: http://www.meryl.net/2007/04/blog-vs-postentry/
To summarize one *posts* *entries* in their blog and entries can be
*articles*, polls, bookmarks, etc.
post = the act of adding an entry
entry = the blog item being added
article = one type of blog entry content
Thus I propose to use "blog entry".
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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10:47 a.m.
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Eduard Moraru <eduard.moraru(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
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http://blog.xwiki.com/
I`m thinking of the action the user is doing; so, how
would it sound
better in the user's mind:
- Make a new blog post
or
- Post a new (blog entry / entry in the blog)
Think of the common expression "log entry". A Blog, as earlier stated is
a Web Log so, the obvious choice for me would be "blog entry".
I`m +1 for "blog entry" and the action of posting.
Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
Blogger uses "post". Wordpress uses "blog post". Typepad uses
"blog post".
Movable type uses "entry".
Seems to me that "post" has an edge here...
Guillaume
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
On Nov 7, 2008, at 6:08 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu
wrote:
What is the best term:
1. blog post
2. blog article
3. blog entry
Others?
Answer: http://www.meryl.net/2007/04/blog-vs-postentry/
To summarize one *posts* *entries* in their blog and entries can be
*articles*, polls, bookmarks, etc.
post = the act of adding an entry
entry = the blog item being added
article = one type of blog entry content
Thus I propose to use "blog entry".
Wordpress lets users write new posts. Thus I'd go for "blog post".
"Blog
entry" doesn't sound as intuitive to me.
Guillaume
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6:35 p.m.
Eduard Moraru wrote:
I`m thinking of the action the user is doing; so, how
would it sound
better in the user's mind:
- Make a new blog post
or
- Post a new (blog entry / entry in the blog)
Think of the common expression "log entry". A Blog, as earlier stated is
a Web Log so, the obvious choice for me would be "blog entry".
I`m +1 for "blog entry" and the action of posting.
+1 for *posting* a new *entry*,
which also allow us to potentially refer actions (to post) and items (entries)
in the same sentence, while keeping consistency and not repeating same word
(posting a new post would not sound good).
Since *there* already is an existing terminology and really, the users would
understand it no matter how we'd put it (for them there is no such a difference
between post and entry and article), I think we could close this one quite fast.
Happy coding,
Anca Luca
Guillaume Lerouge wrote:
Hi,
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs On Nov 7, 2008, at 6:08 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu
wrote:
Wordpress lets users write new posts. Thus I'd go for "blog post".
"Blog
entry" doesn't sound as intuitive to me.
Guillaume
What is the best term:
1. blog post
2. blog article
3. blog entry
Others?
Answer: http://www.meryl.net/2007/04/blog-vs-postentry/
To summarize one *posts* *entries* in their blog and entries can be
*articles*, polls, bookmarks, etc.
post = the act of adding an entry
entry = the blog item being added
article = one type of blog entry content
Thus I propose to use "blog entry".
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
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8 Nov
8 Nov
4:55 p.m.
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Eduard Moraru <eduard.moraru(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
I`m thinking of the action the user is doing; so, how
would it sound
better in the user's mind:
- Make a new blog post
or
- Post a new (blog entry / entry in the blog)
Thinking about the action the user is doing I prefer "Write a new blog
post" to "Post a new entry". Posting a new entry sounds too techie to
me.
+1 for blog post.
JV.
5:07 p.m.
On Nov 8, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
On Fri, Nov 7, 2008 at 10:25 AM, Eduard Moraru
<eduard.moraru(a)xwiki.com
I'd even prefer "Create" rather than "Write" ;)
"Create blog entry" sounds clearer to me than "Create blog post". A
blog post is the entry when it's been posted. You can't create a blog
post since it's not yet been posted :)
Thanks
-Vincent
wrote:
I`m thinking of the action the user is doing; so, how would it sound
better in the user's mind:
- Make a new blog post
or
- Post a new (blog entry / entry in the blog)
Thinking about the action the user is doing I prefer "Write a new blog
post" to "Post a new entry". Posting a new entry sounds too techie to
me. +1 for blog post.
JV.
7:34 p.m.
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Nov 8, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
So, let's compare "Create blog entry" and "Write a new blog
post".
Your proposal make me see a "Create blog entry" button in some menu,
then a "Create" button in the creation form.
I'd prefer to see a "Write a new blog post" button and then a
"Publish" button, this seems more "humane" to me.
Thinking about the action the user is doing I
prefer "Write a new blog
post" to "Post a new entry". Posting a new entry sounds too techie to
me.
I'd even prefer "Create" rather than "Write" ;)
"Create blog entry" sounds clearer to me than "Create blog post". A
blog post is the entry when it's been posted. You can't create a blog
post since it's not yet been posted :)
And if you create a blog entry it still have to be written :)
Our framework must be generic but I don't see why our terminologies
should. I like when a software terminology refers to more IRL stuff, I
prefer "people" to "users", I prefer to have a dock than a taskbar,
and when it comes to write something (note/blog post/message) I like
to see the word "Write" not "Create" :)
ps : When I'm talking to someone I tend to say "Have you seen the last
post on AnyGeekyBlog", not "Have you seen the last entry on
AnyGeekyDatabase^WBlog".
JV.
9:14 p.m.
Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Yep, for the humans, +1 !
On Nov 8, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean
wrote:
So, let's compare "Create blog entry" and "Write a new blog
post".
Your proposal make me see a "Create blog entry" button in some menu,
then a "Create" button in the creation form.
I'd prefer to see a "Write a new blog post" button and then a
"Publish" button, this seems more "humane" to me.
Thinking about the action the user is doing I
prefer "Write a new blog
post" to "Post a new entry". Posting a new entry sounds too techie to
me.
I'd even prefer "Create" rather than "Write" ;)
"Create blog entry" sounds clearer to me than "Create blog post". A
blog post is the entry when it's been posted. You can't create a blog
post since it's not yet been posted :)
And if you create a blog entry it still have to be written :)
Our framework must be generic but I don't see why our terminologies
should. I like when a software terminology refers to more IRL stuff, I
prefer "people" to "users", I prefer to have a dock than a taskbar,
and when it comes to write something (note/blog post/message) I like
to see the word "Write" not "Create" :)
ps : When I'm talking to someone I tend to say "Have you seen the last
post on AnyGeekyBlog", not "Have you seen the last entry on
AnyGeekyDatabase^WBlog".
JV.
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9:36 p.m.
I started writing a rebuttal to each point JV raised but I ended up
dumping it since I can see we're never going to agree.
To be honest, from my side I don't really care. My answer was only
following logic and English word semantics (that's why I referred to
that blog article - In that case it was an article, which is btw way
more "Human" than "post") but we can't agree for several reasons,
one
of them being that the majority of us are not native English speaking
and thus our perceptions of the words are skewed from the onset. The
other being that some of us favor word meanings while others favor
word perceptions.
I'll leave it to you guys to decide but please don't make this process
too long, it's not worth it.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Nov 8, 2008, at 9:14 PM, Jerome Velociter wrote:
Jean-Vincent Drean wrote:
On Sat, Nov 8, 2008 at 5:07 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
Yep, for the humans, +1 !
>
> ps : When I'm talking to someone I tend to say "Have you seen the
> last
> post on AnyGeekyBlog", not "Have you seen the last entry on
> AnyGeekyDatabase^WBlog".
>
> JV. On Nov 8, 2008, at 4:55 PM, Jean-Vincent Drean
wrote:
So, let's compare "Create blog entry" and "Write a new blog
post".
Your proposal make me see a "Create blog entry" button in some menu,
then a "Create" button in the creation form.
I'd prefer to see a "Write a new blog post" button and then a
"Publish" button, this seems more "humane" to me.
Thinking about the action the user is doing I
prefer "Write a new
blog
post" to "Post a new entry". Posting a new entry sounds too
techie to
me.
I'd even prefer "Create" rather than "Write" ;)
"Create blog entry" sounds clearer to me than "Create blog post". A
blog post is the entry when it's been posted. You can't create a blog
post since it's not yet been posted :)
And if you create a blog entry it still have to be written :)
Our framework must be generic but I don't see why our terminologies
should. I like when a software terminology refers to more IRL
stuff, I
prefer "people" to "users", I prefer to have a dock than a taskbar,
and when it comes to write something (note/blog post/message) I like
to see the word "Write" not "Create" :) 
9 Nov
9 Nov
9:13 a.m.
"Thinking about the action the user is doing I prefer "Write a new blog
post" to "Post a new entry". Posting a new entry sounds too techie to
me."
"Publish a new entry" ???
So, let's compare "Create blog entry" and "Write a new blog
post".
Your proposal make me see a "Create blog
entry" button in some menu,
then a "Create" button in the creation form.
I'd prefer to see a "Write a new blog post" button and then a
"Publish" button, this seems more "humane" to me.
I don't understand why you don't agree to this option: "Create blog
entry"
-> "Publish"
All this actions: "*Create*" | "Write" | "Add" |
"Make",
"*Publish*" | "Post" ...,
"*View*",
"*Edit*" | "Modify" ...,
"*Delete*" | "Erase" | "Trash" ...,
"*Comment*"
can be applied to either "entry" or "post".
[ Post <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/post> vs.
Entry<http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entry>] ->
Trend<http://www.google.com/trends?q=blog+post%2C+blog+entry&ctab=0&…
*Post: *Computers: a) message that is sent to a newsgroup; b) text that is
placed on a Web site.
*Entry: *(syn: submission) something (manuscripts or architectural plans and
models or estimates or works of art of all genres etc.) submitted for the
judgment of others (as in a competition); "several of his submissions were
rejected by publishers"; "what was the date of submission of your
proposal?"
"Post" seems to be more popular because it's used by Blogger, etc. but I
would prefer "entry".
1:22 p.m.
Hey people, don't fight for this ;)
{{ teacher-mode }}
Just think human behavior, be pragmatic and just paste human actions on your
technical architecture...
What do you want the user do?
1) click on a button in order to create/write a new Blog entry/post
2) write something in it
3) click on another button to post/publish the new Entry/post on the Blog
So just propose these actions and try to find a sentence to represent it in
English with popular words and lets see how it sounds on a real blod.
If users are not happy with the sentence, you will change it.
Moreover, I would say that in each language, it will be translated
differently with something not like entry or post... So don't need to spend
time on this...
Create a new entry
Create a new post
Write a new post
etc...
Post it
Publish it
etc...
Whatever :)
{{ teacher-mode }}
regards
Pascal
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 9:13 AM, Ecaterina Valica <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
*Post: *Computers: a) message that is sent to a newsgroup; b) text that is
placed on a Web site.
*Entry: *(syn: submission) something (manuscripts or architectural plans
and
models or estimates or works of art of all genres etc.) submitted for the
judgment of others (as in a competition); "several of his submissions were
rejected by publishers"; "what was the date of submission of your
proposal?"
"Post" seems to be more popular because it's used by Blogger, etc. but I
would prefer "entry".
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"Thinking about the action the user is doing I prefer "Write a new blog
post" to "Post a new entry". Posting a new entry sounds too techie to
me."
"Publish a new entry" ???
So, let's compare "Create blog entry" and "Write a new blog
post".
Your proposal make me see a "Create blog
entry" button in some menu,
then a "Create" button in the creation form.
I'd prefer to see a "Write a new blog post" button and then a
"Publish" button, this seems more "humane" to me.
I don't understand why you don't agree to this option: "Create blog
entry"
-> "Publish"
All this actions: "*Create*" | "Write" | "Add" |
"Make",
"*Publish*" | "Post" ...,
"*View*",
"*Edit*" | "Modify" ...,
"*Delete*" | "Erase" | "Trash" ...,
"*Comment*"
can be applied to either "entry" or "post".
[ Post <http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/post> vs.
Entry<http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/entry>] ->
Trend<
http://www.google.com/trends?q=blog+post%2C+blog+entry&ctab=0&geo=a…
7 Nov
7 Nov
5:16 p.m.
Vincent Massol wrote:
On Nov 7, 2008, at 6:08 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Totally agree.
Sorry Guillaume, you're in minority.
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What is the best term:
1. blog post
2. blog article
3. blog entry
Others?
Answer: http://www.meryl.net/2007/04/blog-vs-postentry/
To summarize one *posts* *entries* in their blog and entries can be
*articles*, polls, bookmarks, etc.
post = the act of adding an entry
entry = the blog item being added
article = one type of blog entry content
Thus I propose to use "blog entry".
WDYT?
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