22 Apr
2015
22 Apr
'15
4:08 p.m.
Hello,
I made a proposal on how we could improve App Within Minutes design.
In order to have an idea about that, you can visit -
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/AppWithinMinutesImprovement…
.
The main purpose of creating this design proposal is to help integrate the
following applications created with App Within Minutes with Flamingo Skin.
What I would like for you to take into consideration is the new layout for
the homepage of newly created applications, since there I proposed a bigger
change.
Thank you,
Gabriela
<http://www.xwiki.com/> *Gabriela Smeria*
*Web Developer *
gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com <corina.luong(a)xwiki.com>
tel: +40 742 024 392
skype: smeria.gabriela
23 Apr
23 Apr
11:21 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] App Within Minutes - Improvements
Hi Gabriela,
Thanks for this proposal. As a general remark, it's not easy to see
the differences between your proposal and the current state. A
side-by-side comparison would have helped.
= Wizard Header =
I like how the step number is displayed before the step title. I don't
see be benefit of not showing the numbers for the steps on the right.
Also, I'm not sure blue is the best color to mark the current step.
= Icons =
Are all those icons available in the Icon Theme? Some of the icons are
not well chosen. For instance we are already using the "bricks" icon
for XWiki Objects (in the document tree and the search UI). I don't
think it's suited for "Steps". I wouldn't put icons everywhere just
for the sake of having an icon, unless that icon is really useful. I
don't think we need icons everywhere.
= Home Page =
I'm not convinced by the position of the new buttons. They don't look
right for me because there is also Edit & More Action above. I feel
there are too many buttons spread over the page. Some options (no
necessarily better):
* display the buttons on the left, above the live table (we plan to
add batch operations to the live table and we'll add some buttons
there anyway)
* merge the buttons with the Edit / More Actions. Display Add Entry
before Edit and put app actions inside More Actions
* move Add Entry to the top menu (as an option under the Add button)
and the app actions inside other menus or inside More Actions
Hope this helps,
Marius
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Gabriela Smeria
<gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello,
I made a proposal on how we could improve App Within Minutes design.
In order to have an idea about that, you can visit -
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/AppWithinMinutesImprovement…
.
The main purpose of creating this design proposal is to help integrate the
following applications created with App Within Minutes with Flamingo Skin.
What I would like for you to take into consideration is the new layout for
the homepage of newly created applications, since there I proposed a bigger
change.
Thank you,
Gabriela
<http://www.xwiki.com/> *Gabriela Smeria*
*Web Developer *
gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com <corina.luong(a)xwiki.com>
tel: +40 742 024 392
skype: smeria.gabriela
_______________________________________________
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4:37 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] App Within Minutes - Improvements
Hi Gabriela,
In general, I like the proposition of renewing the theme for
AppWithinMinutes which indeed, looks not completely in line with the new
Flamingo skin.
I'm commenting below based on Marius's answer.
On 23/04/2015 11:21, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
Hi Gabriela,
Thanks for this proposal. As a general remark, it's not easy to see
the differences between your proposal and the current state. A
side-by-side comparison would have helped.
= Wizard Header =
I like how the step number is displayed before the step title. I don't
see be benefit of not showing the numbers for the steps on the right.
Also, I'm not sure blue is the best color to mark the current step.
About
numbers, I'm torned. Marius is right: why removing an information
that exists. However, I'm not sure how useful this information is for
end-user. Marius, do you have any idea what could be the use of having
this information (the number of the step)?
For colors, I disagree with you Marius, green (for done steps), blue
(for current step) and gray (for coming steps) seems pretty logic.
Maybe red could have been used for current step but red also often
represent warning or danger so blue seems fine. Or did I miss some
obvious color for a "current step"?
= Icons =
Are all those icons available in the Icon Theme? Some of the icons are
not well chosen. For instance we are already using the "bricks" icon
for XWiki Objects (in the document tree and the search UI). I don't
think it's suited for "Steps". I wouldn't put icons everywhere just
for the sake of having an icon, unless that icon is really useful. I
don't think we need icons everywhere.
Yes, don't put icons everywhere just
to put icons and be careful about
the choice of the icons. However, I completely agree that trying to
improve the UI with icons is a good idea. So I'm mainly in favor of
this improvement.
= Home Page =
I like this idea of changing the look of these buttons to be more in
line with Flamingo theme (seriously, the old one are only underlined
text!). And I like the idea of merging all the actions except "Add"
(which is the main one) into a dropdown menu.
I'm not convinced by the position of the new
buttons. They don't look
right for me because there is also Edit & More Action above. I feel
there are too many buttons spread over the page. Some options (no
necessarily better):
However, Marius is right about that, maybe having to much
buttons on the
right is not the best. But even with this drawback, I would vote +1 for
this improvement.
* display the buttons on the left, above the live table (we plan to
add batch operations to the live table and we'll add some buttons
there anyway)
To be tested, why not.
* merge the buttons with the Edit / More Actions.
Display Add Entry
before Edit and put app actions inside More Actions
* move Add Entry to the top menu (as an option under the Add button)
and the app actions inside other menus or inside More Actions
I'm not confident
that end-users will find how to add an entry if we go
with this solution (note that I may be wrong :-P)
And sorry but I don't find other propositions (thanks Marius for the
ideas by the way).
Hope this helps,
Same here ;-)
Marius
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Gabriela Smeria
<gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
--
Jean Simard
jean.simard(a)xwiki.com
Research engineer at XWiki SAS
http://www.xwiki.com
Committer on the XWiki.org project
http://www.xwiki.org
Hello,
I made a proposal on how we could improve App Within Minutes design.
In order to have an idea about that, you can visit -
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/AppWithinMinutesImprovement…
.
The main purpose of creating this design proposal is to help integrate the
following applications created with App Within Minutes with Flamingo Skin.
What I would like for you to take into consideration is the new layout for
the homepage of newly created applications, since there I proposed a bigger
change.
Thank you,
Gabriela
<http://www.xwiki.com/> *Gabriela Smeria*
*Web Developer *
gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com <corina.luong(a)xwiki.com>
tel: +40 742 024 392
skype: smeria.gabriela
_______________________________________________
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24 Apr
24 Apr
7:40 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] App Within Minutes - Improvements
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 5:37 PM, Jean SIMARD <jean.simard(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
I'm in favour of grouping the actions too. I'm just not sure about the
position of the buttons.
Hi Gabriela,
In general, I like the proposition of renewing the theme for
AppWithinMinutes which indeed, looks not completely in line with the new
Flamingo skin.
I'm commenting below based on Marius's answer.
On 23/04/2015 11:21, Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
> Hi Gabriela,
>
> Thanks for this proposal. As a general remark, it's not easy to see
> the differences between your proposal and the current state. A
> side-by-side comparison would have helped.
>
> = Wizard Header =
>
> I like how the step number is displayed before the step title. I don't
> see be benefit of not showing the numbers for the steps on the right.
> Also, I'm not sure blue is the best color to mark the current step.
About numbers, I'm torned. Marius is right: why
removing an information
that exists. However, I'm not sure how useful this information is for
end-user. Marius, do you have any idea what could be the use of having
this information (the number of the step)?
I don't see why you would display the number of the current step (on
the left) and not the number of the next/previous steps (on the
right). The list of steps is an ordered list so it makes sense to me
to show the step numbers.
For colors, I disagree with you Marius, green (for done steps), blue
(for current step) and gray (for coming steps) seems pretty logic.
Maybe red could have been used for current step but red also often
represent warning or danger so blue seems fine. Or did I miss some
obvious color for a "current step"?
You cannot hard-code the color (blue). It needs to come from the Color
Theme. So the question is: what variable would you use?
= Icons =
Are all those icons available in the Icon Theme? Some of the icons are
not well chosen. For instance we are already using the "bricks" icon
for XWiki Objects (in the document tree and the search UI). I don't
think it's suited for "Steps". I wouldn't put icons everywhere just
for the sake of having an icon, unless that icon is really useful. I
don't think we need icons everywhere.
Yes, don't put icons everywhere just
to put icons and be careful about
the choice of the icons. However, I completely agree that trying to
improve the UI with icons is a good idea. So I'm mainly in favor of
this improvement.
= Home Page =
I like this idea of changing the look of these buttons to be more in
line with Flamingo theme (seriously, the old one are only underlined
text!). And I like the idea of merging all the actions except
"Add"
(which is the main one) into a dropdown menu.
I'm not convinced by the position of the new
buttons. They don't look
right for me because there is also Edit & More Action above. I feel
there are too many buttons spread over the page. Some options (no
necessarily better):
However, Marius is right about that, maybe having to much
buttons on the
right is not the best. But even with this drawback, I would vote +1 for
this improvement.
* display the buttons on the left, above the live table (we plan to
add batch operations to the live table and we'll add some buttons
there anyway)
To be tested, why not.
* merge the buttons with the Edit / More Actions.
Display Add Entry
before Edit and put app actions inside More Actions
* move Add Entry to the top menu (as an option under the Add button)
and the app actions inside other menus or inside More Actions
I'm not
confident that end-users will find how to add an entry if we go
with this solution (note that I may be wrong :-P)
And sorry but I don't find other propositions (thanks Marius for the
ideas by the way).
Hope this helps,
Same here ;-)
Marius
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Gabriela Smeria
<gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
--
Jean Simard
jean.simard(a)xwiki.com
Research engineer at XWiki SAS
http://www.xwiki.com
Committer on the XWiki.org project
http://www.xwiki.org
_______________________________________________
devs mailing list
devs(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs Hello,
I made a proposal on how we could improve App Within Minutes design.
In order to have an idea about that, you can visit -
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/AppWithinMinutesImprovement…
.
The main purpose of creating this design proposal is to help integrate the
following applications created with App Within Minutes with Flamingo Skin.
What I would like for you to take into consideration is the new layout for
the homepage of newly created applications, since there I proposed a bigger
change.
Thank you,
Gabriela
<http://www.xwiki.com/> *Gabriela Smeria*
*Web Developer *
gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com <corina.luong(a)xwiki.com>
tel: +40 742 024 392
skype: smeria.gabriela
_______________________________________________
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10:27 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] App Within Minutes - Improvements
Hello,
Thanks for your replies. I will answer also on Marius' first answer.
On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hi Gabriela,
Thanks for this proposal. As a general remark, it's not easy to see
the differences between your proposal and the current state. A
side-by-side comparison would have helped.
I thought about that also. I will update the photos on exo.
= Wizard Header =
I like how the step number is displayed before the step title. I don't
see be benefit of not showing the numbers for the steps on the right.
Also, I'm not sure blue is the best color to mark the current step.
I investigated this approach and blue seemed to be the most used color for
the current step. For the next step, I don't know if grey is the best
color, but I tried another several ones and they didn't fit with Flamingo
Skin.
= Icons =
Are all those icons available in the Icon Theme? Some of the icons are
not well chosen. For instance we are already using the "bricks" icon
for XWiki Objects (in the document tree and the search UI). I don't
think it's suited for "Steps". I wouldn't put icons everywhere just
for the sake of having an icon, unless that icon is really useful. I
don't think we need icons everywhere.
I think they are useful and they help the user to identify quickly that
field's meaning.
I know that some of them aren't well chosen, but I there weren't that many
to choose from and I thought that those were the best fit.
= Home Page =
I'm not convinced by the position of the new buttons. They don't look
right for me because there is also Edit & More Action above. I feel
there are too many buttons spread over the page. Some options (no
necessarily better):
* display the buttons on the left, above the live table (we plan to
add batch operations to the live table and we'll add some buttons
there anyway)
Honestly, I also wanted to move them to the left, but I didn't have the
courage since all the other apps have the 'Add' button on the right and I
thought that maybe this approach won't fit in the patterns from Flamingo.
* merge the buttons with the Edit / More Actions.
Display Add Entry
before Edit and put app actions inside More Actions
I agree with Jean on this one. I don't think end-users would be that
intuitive to find application's actions in 'More actions' button from
above. But that may be wrong, I don't know for sure.
* move Add Entry to the top menu (as an option under
the Add button)
and the app actions inside other menus or inside More Actions
I'm not sure that this is better, also.
Hope this helps,
It really helped. Thanks!
Marius
On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Gabriela Smeria
<gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello,
I made a proposal on how we could improve App Within Minutes design.
In order to have an idea about that, you can visit -
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/AppWithinMinutesImprovement…
.
The main purpose of creating this design proposal is to help integrate
the
following applications created with App Within
Minutes with Flamingo
Skin.
What I would like for you to take into consideration is the new layout
for
the homepage of newly created applications, since
there I proposed a
bigger
change.
Thank you,
Gabriela
<http://www.xwiki.com/> *Gabriela Smeria*
*Web Developer *
gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com <corina.luong(a)xwiki.com>
tel: +40 742 024 392
skype: smeria.gabriela
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5:12 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] App Within Minutes - Improvements
Hello,
I've updated the gallery from Overview :
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/AppWithinMinutesImprovement…
.
I added screenshots of application's pages from before and after the
proposal.
Thanks,
Gabriela
*Gabriela Smeria*
*Web Developer*
gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com
skype: smeria.gabriela
On Fri, Apr 24, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Gabriela Smeria <gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thanks for your replies. I will answer also on Marius' first answer.
>
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2015 at 12:21 PM, Marius Dumitru Florea <
> mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com
wrote:
>
>> Hi Gabriela,
>>
>> Thanks for this proposal. As a general remark, it's not easy to see
>> the differences between your proposal and the current state. A
>> side-by-side comparison would have helped.
>>
>
> I thought about that also. I will update the photos on exo.
>
>
>>
>> = Wizard Header =
>>
>> I like how the step number is displayed before the step title. I don't
>> see be benefit of not showing the numbers for the steps on the right.
>> Also, I'm not sure blue is the best color to mark the current step.
>>
>
> I investigated this approach and blue seemed to be the most used color for
> the current step. For the next step, I don't know if grey is the best
> color, but I tried another several ones and they didn't fit with Flamingo
> Skin.
>
>
>>
>> = Icons =
>>
>> Are all those icons available in the Icon Theme? Some of the icons are
>> not well chosen. For instance we are already using the "bricks" icon
>> for XWiki Objects (in the document tree and the search UI). I don't
>> think it's suited for "Steps". I wouldn't put icons everywhere
just
>> for the sake of having an icon, unless that icon is really useful. I
>> don't think we need icons everywhere.
>>
>
> I think they are useful and they help the user to identify quickly that
> field's meaning.
> I know that some of them aren't well chosen, but I there weren't that many
> to choose from and I thought that those were the best fit.
>
>
>>
>> = Home Page =
>>
>> I'm not convinced by the position of the new buttons. They don't look
>> right for me because there is also Edit & More Action above. I feel
>> there are too many buttons spread over the page. Some options (no
>> necessarily better):
>>
>> * display the buttons on the left, above the live table (we plan to
>> add batch operations to the live table and we'll add some buttons
>> there anyway)
>>
>
> Honestly, I also wanted to move them to the left, but I didn't have the
> courage since all the other apps have the 'Add' button on the right and I
> thought that maybe this approach won't fit in the patterns from Flamingo.
>
>
>> * merge the buttons with the Edit / More Actions. Display Add Entry
>> before Edit and put app actions inside More Actions
>>
>
> I agree with Jean on this one. I don't think end-users would be that
> intuitive to find application's actions in 'More actions' button from
> above. But that may be wrong, I don't know for sure.
>
>
>> * move Add Entry to the top menu (as an option under the Add button)
>> and the app actions inside other menus or inside More Actions
>>
>
> I'm not sure that this is better, also.
>
>
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>
> It really helped. Thanks!
>
>
>> Marius
>>
>> On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 5:08 PM, Gabriela Smeria
>> <gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com
wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I made a proposal on how we could improve App Within Minutes design.
>> > In order to have an idea about that, you can visit -
>> >
>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/AppWithinMinutesImprovement…
>> > .
>> >
>> > The main purpose of creating this design proposal is to help integrate
>> the
>> > following applications created with App Within Minutes with Flamingo
>> Skin.
>> >
>> > What I would like for you to take into consideration is the new layout
>> for
>> > the homepage of newly created applications, since there I proposed a
>> bigger
>> > change.
>> >
>> > Thank you,
>> > Gabriela
>> >
>> > <http://www.xwiki.com/> *Gabriela Smeria*
>> > *Web Developer *
>> > gabriela.smeria(a)xwiki.com <corina.luong(a)xwiki.com>
>> > tel: +40 742 024 392
>> > skype: smeria.gabriela
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > devs mailing list
>> > devs(a)xwiki.org
>> > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
>> _______________________________________________
>> devs mailing list
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>>
>
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