Hi Asiri, I'm personally not in favor of having those 2 ideas done as GSOC projects. My reasons: * They are the most complex possible since they are at the very heart of XWiki * They need to be done by existing committers since this is at the heart of xwiki and we'll need to support them on the long run * They are NOT standalone projects and they interact too much with other parts of XWiki. * They have not had the experience of implementing the first generation version and thus will not know the pitfalls and all the ideas that have been raised on these topics over the years In essence this means that almost any line written will need to be discussed at length, validated, understood by existing committers. I don't think it's fair to give this to a GSOC student especially as it'll be almost impossible for him/her to be sure of delivering anything. Then it would mean several mentors and that they are 100% available which is not going to happen. And last if they were I would prefer that they tackle it themselves since again this is really at XWiki's heart. This is my opinion only and Segiu obviously has a different one since he proposed these 2 projects. So first thing, we need to decide if we want to have them a GSOC project. What do other committers think? Thanks -Vincent On Mar 12, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Asiri Rathnayake wrote: _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

Hi Asiri, I'm personally not in favor of having those 2 ideas done as GSOC projects. My reasons: * They are the most complex possible since they are at the very heart of XWiki * They need to be done by existing committers since this is at the heart of xwiki and we'll need to support them on the long run * They are NOT standalone projects and they interact too much with other parts of XWiki. * They have not had the experience of implementing the first generation version and thus will not know the pitfalls and all the ideas that have been raised on these topics over the years

In essence this means that almost any line written will need to be discussed at length, validated, understood by existing committers. I don't think it's fair to give this to a GSOC student especially as it'll be almost impossible for him/her to be sure of delivering anything. Then it would mean several mentors and that they are 100% available which is not going to happen. And last if they were I would prefer that they tackle it themselves since again this is really at XWiki's heart. This is my opinion only and Segiu obviously has a different one since he proposed these 2 projects. So first thing, we need to decide if we want to have them a GSOC project. What do other committers think? Thanks -Vincent On Mar 12, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Asiri Rathnayake wrote: _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs

Hi Asiri, I'm personally not in favor of having those 2 ideas done as GSOC projects. My reasons: * They are the most complex possible since they are at the very heart of XWiki * They need to be done by existing committers since this is at the heart of xwiki and we'll need to support them on the long run * They are NOT standalone projects and they interact too much with other parts of XWiki. * They have not had the experience of implementing the first generation version and thus will not know the pitfalls and all the ideas that have been raised on these topics over the years In essence this means that almost any line written will need to be discussed at length, validated, understood by existing committers. I don't think it's fair to give this to a GSOC student especially as it'll be almost impossible for him/her to be sure of delivering anything. Then it would mean several mentors and that they are 100% available which is not going to happen. And last if they were I would prefer that they tackle it themselves since again this is really at XWiki's heart. This is my opinion only and Segiu obviously has a different one since he proposed these 2 projects. So first thing, we need to decide if we want to have them a GSOC project.

What do other committers think? Thanks -Vincent On Mar 12, 2008, at 4:12 PM, Asiri Rathnayake wrote: > Hi Vincent & All, > > This is about the above two GSoC ideas, > > I would like to know what are the deliverables for the above two > projects ? My guess is, > > 1. Finished Components (i think these are going to be two jar > files ?, i'm yet to discover plexus) > > 2. Test cases. > > 3. Current core integrated with the two components. > > 4. Anything else ? > > Since the current core doesn't follow a components based > architecture, what kind of complications will arise in the > integration phase ? > > Vincent, what about the two implementations of the data-model > component in the sandbox ? have you made a decision ? :) > > Your help and comments are very much appreciated. >