25 Jun
2008
25 Jun
'08
10:51 a.m.
Hi,
I'd like to discuss about filtering document names when they are
created, i.e directly in the XWikiDocument.setFullName()/setName()/
setSpace()/setDatabase() methods.
We could filter out (i.e. remove) the following characters:
* pipe: |
* greater than: >
* brackets: [ and ]
* apostrophe: '
* quote: "
* colon: :
* dot: .
* forward slash: /
Any other?
The reason for ., :, |, >, [ and ] is because these are reserved
characters in wiki link format.
Another option is to allow some escaping for these chars when writing
a wiki link.
Last we need to think about documents in the DB and which already have
these chars. Should we write a migrator to filter these chars too?
Probably.
WDYT?
Some related jira issues:
* http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-1443
* http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-2501
Thanks
-Vincent
25 Jun
25 Jun
10:59 a.m.
Vincent Massol wrote:
Hi,
I'd like to discuss about filtering document names when they are
created, i.e directly in the XWikiDocument.setFullName()/setName()/
setSpace()/setDatabase() methods.
We could filter out (i.e. remove) the following characters:
* pipe: |
* greater than: >
* brackets: [ and ]
* apostrophe: '
* quote: "
* colon: :
* dot: .
* forward slash: /
Any other?
The reason for ., :, |, >, [ and ] is because these are reserved
characters in wiki link format.
Another option is to allow some escaping for these chars when writing
a wiki link.
Last we need to think about documents in the DB and which already have
these chars. Should we write a migrator to filter these chars too?
Probably.
WDYT?
Some related jira issues:
* http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-1443
* http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-2501
And replace them with what? Simply remove them?
The good thing is that the document title can use any character.
On the other hand, I'd rather be able to use any character.
The best solution would be to escape this kind of characters, but it's too hard.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
12:30 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] Filtering document names at creation time?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Vincent Massol wrote:
Yes I would prefer to be able to use anything for documents names but
escaping can be hard to support.
I guess Vincent you are at the best place attach a difficulty level to
this with your work on the new rendering/parsing.
Hi,
I'd like to discuss about filtering document names when they are
created, i.e directly in the XWikiDocument.setFullName()/setName()/
setSpace()/setDatabase() methods.
We could filter out (i.e. remove) the following characters:
* pipe: |
* greater than: >
* brackets: [ and ]
* apostrophe: '
* quote: "
* colon: :
* dot: .
* forward slash: /
Any other?
The reason for ., :, |, >, [ and ] is because these are reserved
characters in wiki link format.
Another option is to allow some escaping for these chars when writing
a wiki link.
Last we need to think about documents in the DB and which already have
these chars. Should we write a migrator to filter these chars too?
Probably.
WDYT?
Some related jira issues:
* http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-1443
* http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-2501
And replace them with what? Simply remove them?
The good thing is that the document title can use any character.
On the other hand, I'd rather be able to use any character.
The best solution would be to escape this kind of characters, but it's too hard.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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Thomas Mortagne
12:56 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] Filtering document names at creation time?
On Jun 25, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
I'd prefer that too but there are some characters we have not choice
other than removing. For example the "/" needs to be removed from a
document name as otherwise it'll clash in the URL. Same goes for ?
Of course best would be to use an ID for a document but the problem
remains the same for the aliases in the URLs to that document.
Vincent Massol wrote:
Yes I would prefer to be able to use anything for documents names but
escaping can be hard to support. Hi,
I'd like to discuss about filtering document names when they are
created, i.e directly in the XWikiDocument.setFullName()/setName()/
setSpace()/setDatabase() methods.
We could filter out (i.e. remove) the following characters:
* pipe: |
* greater than: >
* brackets: [ and ]
* apostrophe: '
* quote: "
* colon: :
* dot: .
* forward slash: /
Any other?
The reason for ., :, |, >, [ and ] is because these are reserved
characters in wiki link format.
Another option is to allow some escaping for these chars when
writing
a wiki link.
Last we need to think about documents in the DB and which already
have
these chars. Should we write a migrator to filter these chars too?
Probably.
WDYT?
Some related jira issues:
* http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-1443
* http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-2501
And replace them with what? Simply remove them?
The good thing is that the document title can use any character.
On the other hand, I'd rather be able to use any character.
The best solution would be to escape this kind of characters, but
it's too hard. I guess Vincent you are at the best place attach a
difficulty level to
this with your work on the new rendering/parsing.
I don't know how this is handled by wikimodel: [Test[Test>Test]]. I'll
need to try it.
Thanks
-Vincent
1:11 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] Filtering document names at creation time?
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On Jun 25, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
/ can be escaped in %2F, ? in %3F, etc.
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
I'd prefer that too but there are some characters we have not choice
other than removing. For example the "/" needs to be removed from a
document name as otherwise it'll clash in the URL. Same goes for ? Vincent Massol wrote:
Yes I would prefer to be able to use anything for documents names but
escaping can be hard to support. Hi,
I'd like to discuss about filtering document names when they are
created, i.e directly in the XWikiDocument.setFullName()/setName()/
setSpace()/setDatabase() methods.
We could filter out (i.e. remove) the following characters:
* pipe: |
* greater than: >
* brackets: [ and ]
* apostrophe: '
* quote: "
* colon: :
* dot: .
* forward slash: /
Any other?
The reason for ., :, |, >, [ and ] is because these are reserved
characters in wiki link format.
Another option is to allow some escaping for these chars when
writing
a wiki link.
Last we need to think about documents in the DB and which already
have
these chars. Should we write a migrator to filter these chars too?
Probably.
WDYT?
Some related jira issues:
* http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-1443
* http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-2501
And replace them with what? Simply remove them?
The good thing is that the document title can use any character.
On the other hand, I'd rather be able to use any character.
The best solution would be to escape this kind of characters, but
it's too hard.
Of course best would be to use an ID for a document but the problem
remains the same for the aliases in the URLs to that document.
--
Thomas Mortagne
I guess Vincent you are at the best place attach
a difficulty level to
this with your work on the new rendering/parsing.
I don't know how this is handled by wikimodel: [Test[Test>Test]]. I'll
need to try it.
Thanks
-Vincent
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1:17 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] Filtering document names at creation time?
On Jun 25, 2008, at 1:11 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 12:56 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
hmmm right, don't know what I was thinking about...
-Vincent
On Jun 25, 2008, at 12:30 PM, Thomas Mortagne wrote:
/ can be escaped in %2F, ? in %3F, etc. On Wed, Jun 25, 2008 at 10:59 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu
<sergiu(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
I'd prefer that too but there are some characters we have not choice
other than removing. For example the "/" needs to be removed from a
document name as otherwise it'll clash in the URL. Same goes for ? Vincent Massol wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'd like to discuss about filtering document names when they are
> created, i.e directly in the XWikiDocument.setFullName()/
> setName()/
> setSpace()/setDatabase() methods.
>
> We could filter out (i.e. remove) the following characters:
> * pipe: |
> * greater than: >
> * brackets: [ and ]
> * apostrophe: '
> * quote: "
> * colon: :
> * dot: .
> * forward slash: /
>
> Any other?
>
> The reason for ., :, |, >, [ and ] is because these are reserved
> characters in wiki link format.
>
> Another option is to allow some escaping for these chars when
> writing
> a wiki link.
>
> Last we need to think about documents in the DB and which already
> have
> these chars. Should we write a migrator to filter these chars too?
> Probably.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Some related jira issues:
> * http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-1443
> * http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-2501
And replace them with what? Simply remove them?
The good thing is that the document title can use any character.
On the other hand, I'd rather be able to use any character.
The best solution would be to escape this kind of characters, but
it's too hard.
Yes I would prefer to be able to use anything for documents names
but
escaping can be hard to support. > Of course best would be to use an ID for a
document but the problem
> remains the same for the aliases in the URLs to that document.
>
>> I guess Vincent you are at the best place attach a difficulty
>> level to
>> this with your work on the new rendering/parsing.
>
> I don't know how this is handled by wikimodel: [Test[Test>Test]].
> I'll
> need to try it.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
1:15 p.m.
Vincent Massol wrote:
I'd like to discuss about filtering document names
when they are
created, i.e directly in the XWikiDocument.setFullName()/setName()/
setSpace()/setDatabase() methods.
We could filter out (i.e. remove) the following characters:
* pipe: |
* greater than: >
* brackets: [ and ]
* apostrophe: '
* quote: "
* colon: :
* dot: .
* forward slash: /
Any other?
The reason for ., :, |, >, [ and ] is because these are reserved
characters in wiki link format.
Another option is to allow some escaping for these chars when writing
a wiki link.
Last we need to think about documents in the DB and which already have
these chars. Should we write a migrator to filter these chars too?
Probably.
WDYT?
+1 for remove these chars.
This makes much problems and I think it doesn't worth effort for
escaping chars in hundreds places. At least for now.
--
Artem Melentyev
1:39 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] Filtering document names at creation time?
careful: suppressing them may get down to an unreadable format.
I'm interested to know what you suggest wrt accented characters. It
has caused many problems in i2geo.net and the reason seems to be an
incomplete treatment of URL encodings (still can't know where). I
still find it'd be great to allow the accented characters to be part
of URLs.
I am surprised that "." (dot) is proposed to be suppressed and don't
know the place in the syntax where it would be a problem.
paul
Vincent Massol wrote:
I'd like to discuss about filtering document
names when they are
created, i.e directly in the XWikiDocument.setFullName()/setName()/
setSpace()/setDatabase() methods.
We could filter out (i.e. remove) the following characters:
* pipe: |
* greater than: >
* brackets: [ and ]
* apostrophe: '
* quote: "
* colon: :
* dot: .
* forward slash: /
Any other?
The reason for ., :, |, >, [ and ] is because these are reserved
characters in wiki link format.
Another option is to allow some escaping for these chars when writing
a wiki link.
Last we need to think about documents in the DB and which already
have
these chars. Should we write a migrator to filter these chars too?
Probably.
WDYT?
+1 for remove these chars.
This makes much problems and I think it doesn't worth effort for
escaping chars in hundreds places. At least for now.
Artem Melentyev
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1:45 p.m.
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On Jun 25, 2008, at 1:39 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote:
careful: suppressing them may get down to an
unreadable format.
I'm interested to know what you suggest wrt accented characters. It
has caused many problems in i2geo.net and the reason seems to be an
incomplete treatment of URL encodings (still can't know where). I
still find it'd be great to allow the accented characters to be part
of URLs.
I am surprised that "." (dot) is proposed to be suppressed and don't
know the place in the syntax where it would be a problem.
Document names... Format is wiki:Space.Page
-Vincent
> Vincent Massol wrote:
>> I'd like to discuss about filtering document names when they are
>> created, i.e directly in the XWikiDocument.setFullName()/setName()/
>> setSpace()/setDatabase() methods.
>>
>> We could filter out (i.e. remove) the following characters:
>> * pipe: |
>> * greater than: >
>> * brackets: [ and ]
>> * apostrophe: '
>> * quote: "
>> * colon: :
>> * dot: .
>> * forward slash: /
>>
>> Any other?
>>
>> The reason for ., :, |, >, [ and ] is because these are reserved
>> characters in wiki link format.
>>
>> Another option is to allow some escaping for these chars when
>> writing
>> a wiki link.
>>
>> Last we need to think about documents in the DB and which already
>> have
>> these chars. Should we write a migrator to filter these chars too?
>> Probably.
>>
>> WDYT?
>
> +1 for remove these chars.
> This makes much problems and I think it doesn't worth effort for
> escaping chars in hundreds places. At least for now.
> Artem Melentyev
3:06 p.m.
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
careful: suppressing them may get down to an
unreadable format.
I'm interested to know what you suggest wrt accented characters. It has
caused many problems in i2geo.net and the reason seems to be an
incomplete treatment of URL encodings (still can't know where). I still
find it'd be great to allow the accented characters to be part of URLs.
I don't see any problems if UTF8 encoding is used.
See http://amelentev.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/àáâãäåæçèéêë
(Is this accents? :))
I am surprised that "." (dot) is proposed to
be suppressed and don't
know the place in the syntax where it would be a problem.
Yes, dot is most wanted special charter.
I think we should remove it as special, when move to some spaces
hierarchy (XWIKI-354 or tags or else).
--
Artem Melentyev
4:57 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Discussion] Filtering document names at creation time?
Le 25-juin-08 à 15:06, Artem Melentyev a écrit :
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
boy it is.
Erm... could you activate the panel to create a page? Maybe that was
the one guilty?
thanks
paul
careful: suppressing them may get down to an
unreadable format.
I'm interested to know what you suggest wrt accented characters. It
has
caused many problems in i2geo.net and the reason seems to be an
incomplete treatment of URL encodings (still can't know where). I
still
find it'd be great to allow the accented characters to be part of
URLs.
I don't see any problems if UTF8 encoding is used.
See http://amelentev.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/àáâãäåæçèéêë
(Is this accents? :))
5:34 p.m.
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
Le 25-juin-08 à 15:06, Artem Melentyev a écrit :
activated. All is fine, except in new blog post title is set
incorrectly: http://amelentev.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/àáâãäåæçèéêë
So the problem is GET-parameters are wrongly encoded.
Look at
http://amelentev.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/àáâãäåæçèéêë1?param=àáâ…
There is jira issue for this:
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-1449
--
Artem Melentyev
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
boy it is.
Erm... could you activate the panel to create a page? Maybe that was the
one guilty? careful: suppressing them may get down to an
unreadable format.
I'm interested to know what you suggest wrt accented characters. It has
caused many problems in i2geo.net and the reason seems to be an
incomplete treatment of URL encodings (still can't know where). I still
find it'd be great to allow the accented characters to be part of URLs.
I don't see any problems if UTF8 encoding is used.
See http://amelentev.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/àáâãäåæçèéêë
(Is this accents? :))
7:39 p.m.
Artem Melentyev wrote:
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
Which is fixed now (on myxwiki.org). Read the last comment to see how to fix this in your
server.
Unfortunately, this is a server error, there's nothing we can do. Parsing the query
string by
ourselves is too much overkill.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
Le 25-juin-08 à 15:06, Artem Melentyev a écrit :
activated. All is fine, except in new blog post title is set
incorrectly: http://amelentev.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/àáâãäåæçèéêë
So the problem is GET-parameters are wrongly encoded.
Look at
http://amelentev.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/àáâãäåæçèéêë1?param=àáâ…
There is jira issue for this:
http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-1449
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
boy it is.
Erm... could you activate the panel to create a page? Maybe that was the
one guilty? careful: suppressing them may get down to an
unreadable format.
I'm interested to know what you suggest wrt accented characters. It has
caused many problems in i2geo.net and the reason seems to be an
incomplete treatment of URL encodings (still can't know where). I still
find it'd be great to allow the accented characters to be part of URLs.
I
don't see any problems if UTF8 encoding is used.
See http://amelentev.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Sandbox/àáâãäåæçèéêë
(Is this accents? :))
10:21 p.m.
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It's fairly easy to work-around but it's a dark hack which would need
self-tuning.
Below is a little attempt at a snippet.
Setting URIEncoding was done i2geo.net but it was still not enough
(but XWiki there is very old).
paul
Le 25-juin-08 à 19:39, Sergiu Dumitriu a écrit :
Unfortunately, this is a server error, there's
nothing we can do.
Parsing the query string by
ourselves is too much overkill.
11:07 p.m.
Paul Libbrecht wrote:
It's fairly easy to work-around but it's a
dark hack which would need
self-tuning.
Below is a little attempt at a snippet.
Didn't receive it...
Setting URIEncoding was done i2geo.net but it was
still not enough (but
XWiki there is very old).
paul
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