[xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Making "Edit this attachment" an advanced feature in the advanced edit mode
1 Sep
2009
1 Sep
'09
10:15 a.m.
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an
advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment":
- in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required
ActiveX object"
- in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following
message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible
with Firefox 3.5.2".
- installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional
configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause
confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
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1 Sep
1 Sep
10:29 a.m.
+1
Thanks,
Marius
Silvia Rusu wrote:
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an
advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment":
- in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required
ActiveX object"
- in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following
message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible
with Firefox 3.5.2".
- installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional
configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause
confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-----
Silvia Rusu
Tester & Documentation Writer - XWiki
http://twitter.com/silviarusu
10:32 a.m.
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+1
- in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the
following
message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible
with Firefox 3.5.2".
I think this can be fixed easily. It's just that none seems to be using this
feature in xwiki (otherwise i would work on maintaining it) (IMO)
- Asiri
10:38 a.m.
Silvia Rusu wrote:
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an
advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment":
- in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required
ActiveX object"
- in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following
message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible
with Firefox 3.5.2".
- installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional
configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause
confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-1
This is a technical problem, but the feature is really nice especially
for simple users. It allows, for example, to edit Word attachments with
a simple click.
Better: Fix FoXWiki to work with modern FF, make the script better
detect when WebDAV can be used in IE.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
11:07 a.m.
Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Silvia Rusu wrote:
"simple click"? That is after you find the right browser, install the
extension (unsigned, but that shouldn't scare any simple user), try to
configure the extension, search for the "Application Path" (where was it
installed?..ah found it /usr/bin/gedit), try to edit, "Error opening
file..", ah, search for an editor supporting WebDAV (or maybe gedit
supports it but it needs to be configured?.. what's WebDAV?..) and
finally give up.
I don't think WebDAV and Firefox extensions are for simple users, at
least with the current steps needed to install and configure.
Marius
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an
advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment":
- in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required
ActiveX object"
- in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following
message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible
with Firefox 3.5.2".
- installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional
configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause
confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-1
This is a technical problem, but the feature is really nice especially
for simple users. It allows, for example, to edit Word attachments with
a simple click.
Better: Fix FoXWiki to work with modern FF, make the script better
detect when WebDAV can be used in IE.
12:28 p.m.
Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
What about showing the "Edit this attachment" icon in simple mode only
if the WebDAV support is available (i.e. FoxWiki extension installed on
Firefox) and always in advanced mode. This way an experienced user can
install and configure the WebDAV support making the feature available to
all the simple users using the same machine.
Marius
Silvia Rusu wrote:
"simple click"? That is after you find the right browser, install the
extension (unsigned, but that shouldn't scare any simple user), try to
configure the extension, search for the "Application Path" (where was it
installed?..ah found it /usr/bin/gedit), try to edit, "Error opening
file..", ah, search for an editor supporting WebDAV (or maybe gedit
supports it but it needs to be configured?.. what's WebDAV?..) and
finally give up.
I don't think WebDAV and Firefox extensions are for simple users, at
least with the current steps needed to install and configure. Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an
advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment":
- in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required
ActiveX object"
- in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following
message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible
with Firefox 3.5.2".
- installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional
configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause
confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-1
This is a technical problem, but the feature is really nice especially
for simple users. It allows, for example, to edit Word attachments with
a simple click.
Marius
Better: Fix FoXWiki to work with modern FF, make
the script better
detect when WebDAV can be used in IE.
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1:52 p.m.
Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
Agreed to remove the edit button if the FF extension is not already
installed and configured.
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Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
What about showing the "Edit this attachment" icon in simple mode only
if the WebDAV support is available (i.e. FoxWiki extension installed on
Firefox) and always in advanced mode. This way an experienced user can
install and configure the WebDAV support making the feature available to
all the simple users using the same machine. Silvia Rusu wrote:
"simple click"? That is after you find the right
browser, install the
extension (unsigned, but that shouldn't scare any simple user), try to
configure the extension, search for the "Application Path" (where was it
installed?..ah found it /usr/bin/gedit), try to edit, "Error opening
file..", ah, search for an editor supporting WebDAV (or maybe gedit
supports it but it needs to be configured?.. what's WebDAV?..) and
finally give up.
I don't think WebDAV and Firefox extensions are for simple users, at
least with the current steps needed to install and configure. Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an
advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment":
- in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required
ActiveX object"
- in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following
message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible
with Firefox 3.5.2".
- installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional
configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause
confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-1
This is a technical problem, but the feature is really nice especially
for simple users. It allows, for example, to edit Word attachments with
a simple click.
11:18 a.m.
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On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Silvia Rusu wrote:
AFAIR WebDAV works OOB with IE and we have support for it. Attachment
editing via WebDAV will work on IE without any plugins. It's firefox that
needs an extension for WebDAV support (for which we extended FoXWiki).
- Asiri
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an
advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment":
- in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a required
ActiveX object"
- in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following
message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not compatible
with Firefox 3.5.2".
- installing the extension on an older version of FF requires additional
configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will cause
confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-1
This is a technical problem, but the feature is really nice especially
for simple users. It allows, for example, to edit Word attachments with
a simple click.
Better: Fix FoXWiki to work with modern FF, make the script better
detect when WebDAV can be used in IE.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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10:39 a.m.
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On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Silvia Rusu wrote:
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an
advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment":
- in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a
required
ActiveX object"
- in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following
message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not
compatible
with Firefox 3.5.2".
- installing the extension on an older version of FF requires
additional
configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will
cause
confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-0 (bordering to -1) I think the pb is not advanced vs simple user.
It's about making the feature work, even for advanced users.
Right now from what you say this feature is not working well enough
and should be disabled by default for all users IMO, till we fix it.
Cannot we verify that the correct FoxWiki extension is installed
before activating the feature automatically?
Thanks
-Vincent
10:57 a.m.
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Vincent Massol wrote:
On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Silvia Rusu wrote:
The feature detects if FoXWiki is installed, and:
- if it is installed, make WebDAV work
- if not, propose to install it
So right now it's behaving as expected, but FoXWiki cannot be installed
in this version of FF. It's a FoXWiki problem, not an XWiki one.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an
advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment":
- in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a
required
ActiveX object"
- in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following
message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not
compatible
with Firefox 3.5.2".
- installing the extension on an older version of FF requires
additional
configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will
cause
confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-0 (bordering to -1) I think the pb is not advanced vs simple user.
It's about making the feature work, even for advanced users.
Right now from what you say this feature is not working well enough
and should be disabled by default for all users IMO, till we fix it.
Cannot we verify that the correct FoxWiki extension is installed
before activating the feature automatically?
11:07 a.m.
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Can we deactivate the feature for FF3.5.2 until FoXWiki fix their problem?
This way users will not need to perform the unnecessary action of installing
an extension they will not ultimately use.
Sergiu Dumitriu-2 wrote:
So right now it's behaving as expected, but FoXWiki cannot be installed
in this version of FF. It's a FoXWiki problem, not an XWiki one.
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http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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12:40 p.m.
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Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Vincent Massol wrote:
No it's not, there's a cryptic error in IE, and I installed FoXWiki on my FF
3.0, and set it up to edit images with GIMP (after I did all the trouble to
install and still get an error in the end that foxwiki, which was supposed to
allow me to edit, cannot edit since it doesn't know how. I know how to edit
options of an extension, I know where my gimp is, etc so I could set it up but I
don't think it's straightforward for all users).
After all this, it opened the gimp but I have an error (smth like cannot open
file from location because it didn't find it). Same problem as Marius said: "ah,
search for an editor supporting WebDAV (or maybe gedit
supports it but it needs to be configured?.. what's WebDAV?..)"
If it's working as expected and I couldn't get it to work, then it means it's
not simple.
my 2 cents,
Anca
On Sep 1, 2009, at 10:15 AM, Silvia Rusu wrote:
The feature detects if FoXWiki is installed, and:
- if it is installed, make WebDAV work
- if not, propose to install it
So right now it's behaving as expected, but FoXWiki cannot be installed
in this version of FF. It's a FoXWiki problem, not an XWiki one. Hi devs,
I propose we make "Edit this attachment" in the "Attachments" tab an
advanced feature in the advanced edit mode.
When trying to use "Edit this attachment":
- in IE you get the following message: "Could not initialize a
required
ActiveX object"
- in FF 3.5.2 installing the extension delivers the following
message:"FoxWiki 1.0b could not be installed because it is not
compatible
with Firefox 3.5.2".
- installing the extension on an older version of FF requires
additional
configuration, which the average user may not know how to perform.
Under the above circumstances I think "Edit this attachment" will
cause
confusion for the average user instead of providing a useful tool.
WDYT?
-0 (bordering to -1) I think the pb is not advanced vs simple user.
It's about making the feature work, even for advanced users.
Right now from what you say this feature is not working well enough
and should be disabled by default for all users IMO, till we fix it.
Cannot we verify that the correct FoxWiki extension is installed
before activating the feature automatically?
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