2 Sep
2009
2 Sep
'09
11:35 a.m.
Hi all,
Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I would
propose that a designer handle it.
annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found here
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
WDYT ?
Lucien
2 Sep
2 Sep
11:46 a.m.
Hi Lucien,
On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Lucien Pereira <lucien.pereira(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
Hi all,
Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I would
propose that a designer handle it.
That would be good. One of our projects requires the annotation feature so
we might be able to have one of our developers work on it. We'll talk about
that while working on the upcoming XWiki Enterprise 2.0 roadmap.
annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found here
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
I'll try giving it a go ASAP.
Guillaume
WDYT ?
Lucien
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3:17 p.m.
One important thing I think is that you need to put an annotation
feature demo on a public server somewhere, so that we can all see what's
the current status
Ludovic
Lucien Pereira a écrit :
Hi all,
Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I would
propose that a designer handle it.
annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found here
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
WDYT ?
Lucien
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3:26 p.m.
+1
2009/9/2 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.org>
One important thing I think is that you need to put an annotation
feature demo on a public server somewhere, so that we can all see what's
the current status
Ludovic
Lucien Pereira a écrit :
Hi all,
Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I would
propose that a designer handle it.
annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found here
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
WDYT ?
Lucien
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4 Sep
11:28 a.m.
I can't promise anything yet I stared the topic so...
if you need advices.
2009/9/2 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>
+1
2009/9/2 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.org>
One important thing I think is that you need to
put an annotation
feature demo on a public server somewhere, so that we can all see what's
the current status
Ludovic
Lucien Pereira a écrit :
Hi all,
Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I would
propose that a designer handle it.
annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found here
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
WDYT ?
Lucien
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6:39 p.m.
I uploaded a demo here http://www.vimeo.com/6433080
An annotation enabled test server will be available soon.
Lucien.
Thibaut DEVERAUX wrote:
I can't promise anything yet I stared the topic
so...
if you need advices.
2009/9/2 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>
+1
2009/9/2 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.org>
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put an annotation
feature demo on a public server somewhere, so that we can all see what's
the current status
Ludovic
Lucien Pereira a écrit :
Hi all,
Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I would
propose that a designer handle it.
annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found here
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
WDYT ?
Lucien
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7:16 p.m.
great tool :)
eager to use it :)
could be really useful and bring new ideas...
regards
Pascal
On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 6:39 PM, Lucien Pereira <lucien.pereira(a)xwiki.com>wrote;wrote:
I uploaded a demo here http://www.vimeo.com/6433080
An annotation enabled test server will be available soon.
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I can't promise anything yet I stared the
topic so...
if you need advices.
2009/9/2 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>
> +1
>
> 2009/9/2 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.org>
>
>
>> One important thing I think is that you need to put an annotation
>> feature demo on a public server somewhere, so that we can all see
what's
>> the current status
>>
>> Ludovic
>>
>> Lucien Pereira a écrit :
>> > Hi all,
>>> Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
>>> great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
>>> be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
>>>
>>> Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I
would
>>> propose that a designer handle it.
>>>
>>> annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found
here
>
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
>
> WDYT ?
>
> Lucien
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7:35 p.m.
Hi Lucien,
Great feature and work.
These are just some ideas for your design and a mockup with some
suggestions:
- The annotated text in panel is much too powerful if it's bold;
- The "..." should be after the annotated text, on the same line, not before
"by";
- for the "Delete" action, you should use "silk/cross" (
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Standards/Icons is not ready yet
- but that's gonna be our delete action);
- the "Delete" action should always have the same position for the elements,
no matter the size of the author's name;
- I would like to see in the panel's title the number of all existing
annotations;
- I would like to have a "legend" of all the authors that worked on the text
and how many annotations he did.
Mockup:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/WebHome/Annota…
Question:
- What happens if you have more that 5 annotations?
- How many annotation will you display in the panel?
Thanks,
Caty
7 Sep
7 Sep
11:16 a.m.
Ecaterina Valica wrote:
Q: Can I select to view only the annotation made by a
specific user?
This is technically possible, but not implemented yet.
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8:03 p.m.
Nice tool lucien !!
Nice mockup caty. ;-)
- I would like to see in the panel's title the
number of all existing
annotations;
Did you make it to show evryting even if some are hidden in the panel?
Question:
- What happens if you have more that 5 annotations?
- How many annotation will you display in the panel?
Yes I have the same wonder.
I would add :
What happen if there is long texts ?
7 Sep
7 Sep
11:19 a.m.
Thibaut DEVERAUX wrote:
Nice tool lucien !!
Nice mockup caty. ;-)
Not well handled yet, for now all lines are displayed in the panel.
I think a popup panel should be good to display long texts.
- I would like to see in the panel's title
the number of all existing
annotations;
Did you make it to show evryting even if some are hidden in the panel?
Question:
- What happens if you have more that 5 annotations?
- How many annotation will you display in the panel?
Yes I have the same wonder.
I would add :
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2009/9/7 Lucien Pereira <lucien.pereira(a)xwiki.com>om>:
Thibaut DEVERAUX wrote:
Another sugestions : deploying in place :
Lorem ipsium dolor es... [more]
Click one more
Transform in :
Lorem ipsum dolor est magnificat this texte is about five lines long.
This is political design decision, lol. If you use this on in spite of
popups very long texts (starting at 5-8 lines) become hard to read.
Then if people see them very long text is impossible to read, they
will use comment to devlop long theorics in spite of the panel.
This depends if you want your pannel for fast notifications or if you
want your panel for all that can be done in commenting text.
Nice tool lucien !!
Nice mockup caty. ;-)
Not well handled yet, for now all lines are displayed in the panel.
I think a popup panel should be good to display long texts. - I would like to see in the panel's title
the number of all existing
annotations;
Did you make it to show evryting even if some are hidden in the panel?
Question:
- What happens if you have more that 5 annotations?
- How many annotation will you display in the panel?
Yes I have the same wonder.
I would add :
What happen if there is long texts ?
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Ecaterina Valica wrote:
Hi Lucien,
Great feature and work.
These are just some ideas for your design and a mockup with some
suggestions:
- The annotated text in panel is much too powerful if it's bold;
- The "..." should be after the annotated text, on the same line, not before
"by";
- for the "Delete" action, you should use "silk/cross" (
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Standards/Icons is not ready yet
- but that's gonna be our delete action);
- the "Delete" action should always have the same position for the elements,
no matter the size of the author's name;
- I would like to see in the panel's title the number of all existing
annotations;
- I would like to have a "legend" of all the authors that worked on the text
and how many annotations he did.
Mockup:
http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Improvements/WebHome/Annota…
Hi Caty,
Thanks for these suggestions, each of them is relevant.
Question:
- What happens if you have more that 5 annotations?
In which aspect ?
- How many annotation will you display in the panel?
The panel display all annotations in the page. We should find a way to
save space :
- by programming a scrollable panel.
- by displaying a small subset of annotations each time.
Thanks,
Caty
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10:30 a.m.
Lucien Pereira wrote:
I uploaded a demo here http://www.vimeo.com/6433080
An annotation enabled test server will be available soon.
A test server is available here :
http://annotations.devxwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/
Lucien.
Thibaut DEVERAUX wrote:
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2009/9/2 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>
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> One important thing I think is that you need to put an annotation
> feature demo on a public server somewhere, so that we can all see what's
> the current status
>
> Ludovic
>
> Lucien Pereira a écrit :
> > Hi all,
>> Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
>> great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
>> be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
>>
>> Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I would
>> propose that a designer handle it.
>>
>> annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found here
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
>>
>> WDYT ?
>>
>> Lucien
>> _______________________________________________
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-Tests on Firefox and IE.-
Hi Lucien
I tried to start a small test. I did not find how to add an annotation.
I tryed to underline a texte, then I've been looking for a button or
someting to add an anotation. I didn't manage to find one. So I get in
the texte editor, here neither I didn't find the way to add an
anotation. Then I watched the Video on Vimeo. Yet on the video I
did'nt manage to get it was done. Keyboard shortcut ?
When I want to create an anotation. Where can I find how to make it ?
Thanks
Thibaut
2009/9/9 Lucien Pereira <lucien.pereira(a)xwiki.com>om>:
Lucien Pereira wrote:
I uploaded a demo here
http://www.vimeo.com/6433080
An annotation enabled test server will be available soon.
A test server is available here :
http://annotations.devxwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/
Lucien.
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2009/9/2 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.org>
> One important thing I think is that you need to put an annotation
> feature demo on a public server somewhere, so that we can all see what's
> the current status
>
> Ludovic
>
> Lucien Pereira a écrit :
> > Hi all,
>> Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
>> great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
>> be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
>>
>> Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I would
>> propose that a designer handle it.
>>
>> annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found here
>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
>>
>> WDYT ?
>>
>> Lucien
>> _______________________________________________
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Also I deleted one existing anotation by accident clicking evrywhere
on the panel and hitting the (-) button by accident.
So I felt terribly depressed ssince I wasn't able to restore it. (I'm
exagerating a bit lol)
-- Is anybody able to delet other people anoations ?
-- When I deleted by accident an interesting anotation made by someone
else, is it possible to restore it ?
-- Should the delete button easily accessible ? (there may be a reason
to do it, it is your service design so I don't know)
++
Thibaut
2009/9/9 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>om>:
-Tests on Firefox and IE.-
Hi Lucien
I tried to start a small test. I did not find how to add an annotation.
I tryed to underline a texte, then I've been looking for a button or
someting to add an anotation. I didn't manage to find one. So I get in
the texte editor, here neither I didn't find the way to add an
anotation. Then I watched the Video on Vimeo. Yet on the video I
did'nt manage to get it was done. Keyboard shortcut ?
When I want to create an anotation. Where can I find how to make it ?
Thanks
Thibaut
2009/9/9 Lucien Pereira <lucien.pereira(a)xwiki.com>om>:
Lucien Pereira wrote:
I uploaded a demo here
http://www.vimeo.com/6433080
An annotation enabled test server will be available soon.
A test server is available here :
http://annotations.devxwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/
Lucien.
Thibaut DEVERAUX wrote:
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topic so...
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2009/9/2 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>
> +1
>
> 2009/9/2 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.org>
>
>
>> One important thing I think is that you need to put an annotation
>> feature demo on a public server somewhere, so that we can all see what's
>> the current status
>>
>> Ludovic
>>
>> Lucien Pereira a écrit :
>> > Hi all,
>>> Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
>>> great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
>>> be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
>>>
>>> Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I would
>>> propose that a designer handle it.
>>>
>>> annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found here
>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
>>>
>>> WDYT ?
>>>
>>> Lucien
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> devs mailing list
>>> devs(a)xwiki.org
>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
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>>>
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1:19 a.m.
Made a small user action chart for test purpose. It is not complete
yet it may be a good start to help.
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/XWiki/ThibautDeveraux/b1lme15Annota…
PS : evaluation of UX relative importance of facts.
About accidental comment deletion, it would be a rare case mainly
linked with the fact I didn't not find how to write. Long text
comments may also be a rare case.
Being able to see evrything on the pannel (more than 5 comments, to
many ~long texts) is a more probable case among the rares ones imo.
Being able to see all the comments in the pannel (scroll, change
pannel size in auto or cliking on more, etc. ) may be interesting.
Finding out how to "Write a new comment" may be a big problem for user
adoption. If it is not me who missed someting. ^_^
Changing the colors the colors, icones, text architecture... of the
panel according to Caty mockup could help for a better UX, both for
emotional (++percieved quality) and ergonomics (++easy to figure out
things).
2009/9/9 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>om>:
Also I deleted one existing anotation by accident
clicking evrywhere
on the panel and hitting the (-) button by accident.
So I felt terribly depressed ssince I wasn't able to restore it. (I'm
exagerating a bit lol)
-- Is anybody able to delet other people anoations ?
-- When I deleted by accident an interesting anotation made by someone
else, is it possible to restore it ?
-- Should the delete button easily accessible ? (there may be a reason
to do it, it is your service design so I don't know)
++
Thibaut
2009/9/9 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>om>:
-Tests on Firefox and IE.-
Hi Lucien
I tried to start a small test. I did not find how to add an annotation.
I tryed to underline a texte, then I've been looking for a button or
someting to add an anotation. I didn't manage to find one. So I get in
the texte editor, here neither I didn't find the way to add an
anotation. Then I watched the Video on Vimeo. Yet on the video I
did'nt manage to get it was done. Keyboard shortcut ?
When I want to create an anotation. Where can I find how to make it ?
Thanks
Thibaut
2009/9/9 Lucien Pereira <lucien.pereira(a)xwiki.com>om>:
Lucien Pereira wrote:
I uploaded a demo here
http://www.vimeo.com/6433080
An annotation enabled test server will be available soon.
A test server is available here :
http://annotations.devxwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/
Lucien.
Thibaut DEVERAUX wrote:
> I can't promise anything yet I stared the topic so...
> if you need advices.
>
> 2009/9/2 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>
>
>> +1
>>
>> 2009/9/2 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.org>
>>
>>
>>> One important thing I think is that you need to put an annotation
>>> feature demo on a public server somewhere, so that we can all see what's
>>> the current status
>>>
>>> Ludovic
>>>
>>> Lucien Pereira a écrit :
>>> > Hi all,
>>>> Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
>>>> great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
>>>> be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
>>>>
>>>> Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I would
>>>> propose that a designer handle it.
>>>>
>>>> annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found here
>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
>>>>
>>>> WDYT ?
>>>>
>>>> Lucien
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
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Thibaut DEVERAUX wrote:
Also I deleted one existing anotation by accident
clicking evrywhere
on the panel and hitting the (-) button by accident.
So I felt terribly depressed ssince I wasn't able to restore it. (I'm
exagerating a bit lol)
-- Is anybody able to delet other people anoations ?
For now yes. By the way
it's time to think about a right policy
concerning annotations management.
-- When I deleted by accident an interesting anotation made by someone
else, is it possible to restore it ?
Since annotations are stored as objects of the document, you can
rollback any annotation deletion using hystory tab.
-- Should the delete button easily accessible ? (there may be a reason
to do it, it is your service design so I don't know)
I let the delete button easily accessible in order to underline the fact
that annotations are easily managable objects. For design reasons I'm
not opposed to made this action harder to do.
++
Thibaut
2009/9/9 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>om>:
-Tests on Firefox and IE.-
Hi Lucien
I tried to start a small test. I did not find how to add an annotation.
I tryed to underline a texte, then I've been looking for a button or
someting to add an anotation. I didn't manage to find one. So I get in
the texte editor, here neither I didn't find the way to add an
anotation. Then I watched the Video on Vimeo. Yet on the video I
did'nt manage to get it was done. Keyboard shortcut ?
When I want to create an anotation. Where can I find how to make it ?
Thanks
Thibaut
2009/9/9 Lucien Pereira <lucien.pereira(a)xwiki.com>om>:
> Lucien Pereira wrote:
>> I uploaded a demo here http://www.vimeo.com/6433080
>>
>> An annotation enabled test server will be available soon.
> A test server is available here :
> http://annotations.devxwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/
>
>> Lucien.
>>
>> Thibaut DEVERAUX wrote:
>>> I can't promise anything yet I stared the topic so...
>>> if you need advices.
>>>
>>> 2009/9/2 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>
>>>
>>>> +1
>>>>
>>>> 2009/9/2 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.org>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> One important thing I think is that you need to put an annotation
>>>>> feature demo on a public server somewhere, so that we can all see
what's
>>>>> the current status
>>>>>
>>>>> Ludovic
>>>>>
>>>>> Lucien Pereira a écrit :
>>>>> > Hi all,
>>>>>> Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to
provide a
>>>>>> great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI
should
>>>>>> be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy,
I would
>>>>>> propose that a designer handle it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be
found here
>>>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WDYT ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lucien
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>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Ludovic Dubost
>>>>> Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
>>>>> XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
>>>>> Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
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Thibaut DEVERAUX wrote:
-Tests on Firefox and IE.-
Hi Lucien
I tried to start a small test. I did not find how to add an annotation.
Hi Thibaut,
First of all, please read this document :
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
I tryed to underline a texte, then I've been looking for a button or
someting to add an anotation. I didn't manage to find one. So I get in
the texte editor, here neither I didn't find the way to add an
anotation. Then I watched the Video on Vimeo. Yet on the video I
did'nt manage to get it was done. Keyboard shortcut ?
Indeed, you have to keep control key down while selecting.
When I want to create an anotation. Where can I find how to make it ?
Thanks
Thibaut
2009/9/9 Lucien Pereira <lucien.pereira(a)xwiki.com>om>:
Lucien Pereira wrote:
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs I uploaded a demo here
http://www.vimeo.com/6433080
An annotation enabled test server will be available soon.
A test server is
available here :
http://annotations.devxwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/
Lucien.
Thibaut DEVERAUX wrote:
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I can't promise anything yet I stared the
topic so...
if you need advices.
2009/9/2 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>
> +1
>
> 2009/9/2 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.org>
>
>
>> One important thing I think is that you need to put an annotation
>> feature demo on a public server somewhere, so that we can all see what's
>> the current status
>>
>> Ludovic
>>
>> Lucien Pereira a écrit :
>> > Hi all,
>>> Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
>>> great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
>>> be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
>>>
>>> Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I would
>>> propose that a designer handle it.
>>>
>>> annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found here
>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
>>>
>>> WDYT ?
>>>
>>> Lucien
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> devs mailing list
>>> devs(a)xwiki.org
>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Ludovic Dubost
>> Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
>> XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
>> Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
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2009/9/10 Lucien Pereira <lucien.pereira(a)xwiki.com>om>:
Thibaut DEVERAUX wrote:
Thanks. It is helpfull.
Since I was testing the annotation module it is a chance I havn't read
this earlier. Having seen the video was already a biais to tests.
Users rarely read the manual before using. Also, since it is possible
to make intuitive interfaces or in place explaination there is no
reason to oblige the user to read the manual since it slow it's main
activity.
A simple "select text and use ctrl to add an anotation" on a (?) icone
can be good.
Also having a (+) icone that open the comment box if text selected or
print a "select text now" can be another deal.
First may be faster once learned, second may be more fluid the first
times as the learning is made during usage.
There may be other solutions up to your imagination.
-Tests on Firefox and IE.-
Hi Lucien
I tried to start a small test. I did not find how to add an annotation.
Hi Thibaut,
First of all, please read this document :
http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
I tryed to underline a texte, then I've been looking for a button or
someting to add an anotation. I didn't manage to find one. So I get in
the texte editor, here neither I didn't find the way to add an
anotation. Then I watched the Video on Vimeo. Yet on the video I
did'nt manage to get it was done. Keyboard shortcut ?
Indeed, you have to keep control key down while selecting.
When I want to create an anotation. Where can I find how to make it ?
Thanks
Thibaut
2009/9/9 Lucien Pereira <lucien.pereira(a)xwiki.com>om>:
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Lucien Pereira wrote:
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devs(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs I uploaded a demo here
http://www.vimeo.com/6433080
An annotation enabled test server will be available soon.
A test server is
available here :
http://annotations.devxwiki.com/xwiki/bin/view/Main/
Lucien.
Thibaut DEVERAUX wrote:
> I can't promise anything yet I stared the topic so...
> if you need advices.
>
> 2009/9/2 Thibaut DEVERAUX <thibaut.deveraux(a)gmail.com>
>
>> +1
>>
>> 2009/9/2 Ludovic Dubost <ludovic(a)xwiki.org>
>>
>>
>>> One important thing I think is that you need to put an annotation
>>> feature demo on a public server somewhere, so that we can all see what's
>>> the current status
>>>
>>> Ludovic
>>>
>>> Lucien Pereira a écrit :
>>> > Hi all,
>>>> Annotation module success depends strongly of being able to provide a
>>>> great user exprerience. So I think current annotation module UI should
>>>> be improved, for now it has only been tested in firefox.
>>>>
>>>> Since I really do not have skills concerning interface ergonomy, I would
>>>> propose that a designer handle it.
>>>>
>>>> annotation feature installation and usage instructions can be found here
>>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Drafts/AnnotationModule
>>>>
>>>> WDYT ?
>>>>
>>>> Lucien
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> devs mailing list
>>>> devs(a)xwiki.org
>>>> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs
>>>>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Ludovic Dubost
>>> Blog: http://blog.ludovic.org/
>>> XWiki: http://www.xwiki.com
>>> Skype: ldubost GTalk: ldubost
>>>
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