8 Feb
2016
8 Feb
'16
11:15 a.m.
Hi,
The copy dialog is something we added recently in 7.2+ and displays the
page structure from the subwikis.
The problem is that if from subwikiA you want to copy to subwikiB and you
are browsing the tree, you will see unrendered titles for the homepage of
some applications.
1. So the current 'solution' was to change the visibility for
TranslationDocumentClass from WIKI to GLOBAL. Apparently this requires
PROGRAMMING rights.
2. Another bad solution would be not use translations keys for those
homepage titles, in order to display plain text. Or just accept the fact
that it is unrendered (which looks really bad).
3. other???
Thanks,
Caty
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Iustin Insuratelu <
iustin.insuratelu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello,
Recently we've been discussing about a situation that creates some
inconveniences.
What happens in short:
* Have multiple subwikis, each with different extensions
* Try to copy one content page from one wiki to another
* When you are using the Copy Dialog - you can see pages from other
subwikis. In that list the translations are broken.
* It's about the applications homepages that uses translations keys for
their titles.
You will get something similar to http://screencast.com/t/8aHY7dca
There are problems with translations visibility between subwikis.
Check:
* ideas
* filemanager
* xpoll
* notes
You can get more details from:
* http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/NOTES-3
* http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XDOODLE-32
* http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/IDEAS-63
The current solution (see
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/application-ideas/pull/16) creates a few
glitches with installing that app on subwikis and programming rights.
What we need is to define a rule that will be acceptable for the entire XE.
What are your thoughts on this?
Regards,
*Iustin*
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11:19 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [xwiki-users] Translations available at Global Level
Is it possible to use the context of the wiki (with its translation
bundles) when the title of the page is rendered from an other wiki?
2016-02-08 11:15 GMT+01:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>om>:
Hi,
The copy dialog is something we added recently in 7.2+ and displays the
page structure from the subwikis.
The problem is that if from subwikiA you want to copy to subwikiB and you
are browsing the tree, you will see unrendered titles for the homepage of
some applications.
1. So the current 'solution' was to change the visibility for
TranslationDocumentClass from WIKI to GLOBAL. Apparently this requires
PROGRAMMING rights.
2. Another bad solution would be not use translations keys for those
homepage titles, in order to display plain text. Or just accept the fact
that it is unrendered (which looks really bad).
3. other???
Thanks,
Caty
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Iustin Insuratelu <
iustin.insuratelu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
Hello,
Recently we've been discussing about a situation that creates some
inconveniences.
What happens in short:
* Have multiple subwikis, each with different extensions
* Try to copy one content page from one wiki to another
* When you are using the Copy Dialog - you can see pages from other
subwikis. In that list the translations are broken.
* It's about the applications homepages that uses translations keys for
their titles.
You will get something similar to http://screencast.com/t/8aHY7dca
There are problems with translations visibility between subwikis.
Check:
* ideas
* filemanager
* xpoll
* notes
You can get more details from:
* http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/NOTES-3
* http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XDOODLE-32
* http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/IDEAS-63
The current solution (see
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/application-ideas/pull/16) creates a
few
glitches with installing that app on subwikis and
programming rights.
What we need is to define a rule that will be acceptable for the entire
XE.
What are your thoughts on this?
Regards,
*Iustin*
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11:30 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [xwiki-users] Translations available at Global Level
Hi,
On 8 Feb 2016 at 11:19:46, Guillaume Delhumeau
(guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com)) wrote:
Is it possible to use the context of the wiki (with
its translation
bundles) when the title of the page is rendered from an other wiki?
Indeed this looks like a bug of not setting the proper context (and not having this title
cache that we need so much now ;)).
Now this doesn’t solve the other use case mentioned in the first mail: if you copy an
app-generated page to a subwiki you’ll not have the translation rendered properly.
I guess ideally XWiki would recognize that this page is part of a given app and issue a
warning if you try to copy just the page without copying the full app.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
2016-02-08 11:15 GMT+01:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) :
> Hi,
>
> The copy dialog is something we added recently in 7.2+ and displays the
> page structure from the subwikis.
> The problem is that if from subwikiA you want to copy to subwikiB and you
> are browsing the tree, you will see unrendered titles for the homepage of
> some applications.
>
> 1. So the current 'solution' was to change the visibility for
> TranslationDocumentClass from WIKI to GLOBAL. Apparently this requires
> PROGRAMMING rights.
> 2. Another bad solution would be not use translations keys for those
> homepage titles, in order to display plain text. Or just accept the fact
> that it is unrendered (which looks really bad).
> 3. other???
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Iustin Insuratelu <
> iustin.insuratelu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Recently we've been discussing about a situation that creates some
> > inconveniences.
> >
> > What happens in short:
> > * Have multiple subwikis, each with different extensions
> > * Try to copy one content page from one wiki to another
> > * When you are using the Copy Dialog - you can see pages from other
> > subwikis. In that list the translations are broken.
> > * It's about the applications homepages that uses translations keys for
> > their titles.
> >
> > You will get something similar to http://screencast.com/t/8aHY7dca
> > There are problems with translations visibility between subwikis.
> > Check:
> > * ideas
> > * filemanager
> > * xpoll
> > * notes
> >
> > You can get more details from:
> > * http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/NOTES-3
> > * http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XDOODLE-32
> > * http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/IDEAS-63
> >
> > The current solution (see
> > https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/application-ideas/pull/16) creates a
> few
> > glitches with installing that app on subwikis and programming rights.
> >
> > What we need is to define a rule that will be acceptable for the entire
> XE.
> > What are your thoughts on this?
> >
> > Regards,
> > *Iustin*
11:35 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [xwiki-users] Translations available at Global Level
The use case was not really wanting to copy an application page, but
wanting to copy any type of page.
The problem was the display of unrendered titles in the copy dialog.
Thanks,
Caty
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:30 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
Hi,
On 8 Feb 2016 at 11:19:46, Guillaume Delhumeau (
guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com))
wrote:
Is it possible to use the context of the wiki
(with its translation
bundles) when the title of the page is rendered from an other wiki?
Indeed this looks like a bug of not setting the proper context (and not
having this title cache that we need so much now ;)).
Now this doesn’t solve the other use case mentioned in the first mail: if
you copy an app-generated page to a subwiki you’ll not have the translation
rendered properly.
I guess ideally XWiki would recognize that this page is part of a given
app and issue a warning if you try to copy just the page without copying
the full app.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
2016-02-08 11:15 GMT+01:00 Ecaterina Moraru
(Valica) :
> Hi,
>
> The copy dialog is something we added recently in 7.2+ and displays the
> page structure from the subwikis.
> The problem is that if from subwikiA you want to copy to subwikiB and
you
> are browsing the tree, you will see
unrendered titles for the homepage
of
> some applications.
>
> 1. So the current 'solution' was to change the visibility for
> TranslationDocumentClass from WIKI to GLOBAL. Apparently this requires
> PROGRAMMING rights.
> 2. Another bad solution would be not use translations keys for those
> homepage titles, in order to display plain text. Or just accept the
fact
> that it is unrendered (which looks really
bad).
> 3. other???
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Iustin Insuratelu <
> iustin.insuratelu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Recently we've been discussing about a situation that creates some
> > inconveniences.
> >
> > What happens in short:
> > * Have multiple subwikis, each with different extensions
> > * Try to copy one content page from one wiki to another
> > * When you are using the Copy Dialog - you can see pages from other
> > subwikis. In that list the translations are broken.
> > * It's about the applications homepages that uses translations keys
for
> > their titles.
> >
> > You will get something similar to http://screencast.com/t/8aHY7dca
> > There are problems with translations visibility between subwikis.
> > Check:
> > * ideas
> > * filemanager
> > * xpoll
> > * notes
> >
> > You can get more details from:
> > * http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/NOTES-3
> > * http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XDOODLE-32
> > * http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/IDEAS-63
> >
> > The current solution (see
> > https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/application-ideas/pull/16) creates
a
> few
> > glitches with installing that app on subwikis and programming rights.
> >
> > What we need is to define a rule that will be acceptable for the
entire
> XE.
> > What are your thoughts on this?
> >
> > Regards,
> > *Iustin*
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11:47 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [xwiki-users] Translations available at Global Level
On 8 Feb 2016 at 11:35:43, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
(valicac@gmail.com(mailto:valicac@gmail.com)) wrote:
The use case was not really wanting to copy an
application page, but
wanting to copy any type of page.
Copying any type of page is not an issue. If you, as a user, put some translation that
only exists in your wiki and you copy that page to a subwiki, how could you expect that
translation to be there?
Thanks
-Vincent
The problem was the display of unrendered titles in
the copy dialog.
Thanks,
Caty
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:30 PM, vincent(a)massol.net
wrote:
Hi,
On 8 Feb 2016 at 11:19:46, Guillaume Delhumeau (
guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com(mailto:guillaume.delhumeau@xwiki.com))
wrote:
_______________________________________________
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http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs Is it possible to use the context of the wiki
(with its translation
bundles) when the title of the page is rendered from an other wiki?
Indeed this looks like a bug of not setting the proper context (and not
having this title cache that we need so much now ;)).
Now this doesn’t solve the other use case mentioned in the first mail: if
you copy an app-generated page to a subwiki you’ll not have the translation
rendered properly.
I guess ideally XWiki would recognize that this page is part of a given
app and issue a warning if you try to copy just the page without copying
the full app.
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
2016-02-08 11:15 GMT+01:00 Ecaterina Moraru
(Valica) :
> Hi,
>
> The copy dialog is something we added recently in 7.2+ and displays the
> page structure from the subwikis.
> The problem is that if from subwikiA you want to copy to subwikiB and
you
> are browsing the tree, you will see
unrendered titles for the homepage
of
> some applications.
>
> 1. So the current 'solution' was to change the visibility for
> TranslationDocumentClass from WIKI to GLOBAL. Apparently this requires
> PROGRAMMING rights.
> 2. Another bad solution would be not use translations keys for those
> homepage titles, in order to display plain text. Or just accept the
fact
> that it is unrendered (which looks really
bad).
> 3. other???
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Iustin Insuratelu <
> iustin.insuratelu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Recently we've been discussing about a situation that creates some
> > inconveniences.
> >
> > What happens in short:
> > * Have multiple subwikis, each with different extensions
> > * Try to copy one content page from one wiki to another
> > * When you are using the Copy Dialog - you can see pages from other
> > subwikis. In that list the translations are broken.
> > * It's about the applications homepages that uses translations keys
for
> > their titles.
> >
> > You will get something similar to http://screencast.com/t/8aHY7dca
> > There are problems with translations visibility between subwikis.
> > Check:
> > * ideas
> > * filemanager
> > * xpoll
> > * notes
> >
> > You can get more details from:
> > * http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/NOTES-3
> > * http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XDOODLE-32
> > * http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/IDEAS-63
> >
> > The current solution (see
> > https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/application-ideas/pull/16) creates
a
> few
> > glitches with installing that app on subwikis and programming rights.
> >
> > What we need is to define a rule that will be acceptable for the
entire
> XE.
> > What are your thoughts on this?
> >
> > Regards,
> > *Iustin*
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12:23 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [xwiki-users] Translations available at Global Level
I agree, this is definitely a context related bug, titile are supposed
to be rendered in the context of their document.
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau
<guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Is it possible to use the context of the wiki (with
its translation
bundles) when the title of the page is rendered from an other wiki?
2016-02-08 11:15 GMT+01:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>om>:
--
Thomas Mortagne
Hi,
The copy dialog is something we added recently in 7.2+ and displays the
page structure from the subwikis.
The problem is that if from subwikiA you want to copy to subwikiB and you
are browsing the tree, you will see unrendered titles for the homepage of
some applications.
1. So the current 'solution' was to change the visibility for
TranslationDocumentClass from WIKI to GLOBAL. Apparently this requires
PROGRAMMING rights.
2. Another bad solution would be not use translations keys for those
homepage titles, in order to display plain text. Or just accept the fact
that it is unrendered (which looks really bad).
3. other???
Thanks,
Caty
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Iustin Insuratelu <
iustin.insuratelu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
_______________________________________________
devs mailing list
devs(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs Hello,
Recently we've been discussing about a situation that creates some
inconveniences.
What happens in short:
* Have multiple subwikis, each with different extensions
* Try to copy one content page from one wiki to another
* When you are using the Copy Dialog - you can see pages from other
subwikis. In that list the translations are broken.
* It's about the applications homepages that uses translations keys for
their titles.
You will get something similar to http://screencast.com/t/8aHY7dca
There are problems with translations visibility between subwikis.
Check:
* ideas
* filemanager
* xpoll
* notes
You can get more details from:
* http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/NOTES-3
* http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XDOODLE-32
* http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/IDEAS-63
The current solution (see
https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/application-ideas/pull/16) creates a
few
glitches with installing that app on subwikis and
programming rights.
What we need is to define a rule that will be acceptable for the entire
XE.
What are your thoughts on this?
Regards,
*Iustin*
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1:17 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [xwiki-users] Translations available at Global Level
Thanks for your answers. I've created
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-13084 , hope the description is correct.
Caty
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 1:23 PM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
I agree, this is definitely a context related bug,
titile are supposed
to be rendered in the context of their document.
On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau
<guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
--
Thomas Mortagne
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Is it possible to use the context of the wiki
(with its translation
bundles) when the title of the page is rendered from an other wiki?
2016-02-08 11:15 GMT+01:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com
:
> Hi,
>
> The copy dialog is something we added recently in 7.2+ and displays the
> page structure from the subwikis.
> The problem is that if from subwikiA you want to copy to subwikiB and
you
> are browsing the tree, you will see
unrendered titles for the homepage
of
> some applications.
>
> 1. So the current 'solution' was to change the visibility for
> TranslationDocumentClass from WIKI to GLOBAL. Apparently this requires
> PROGRAMMING rights.
> 2. Another bad solution would be not use translations keys for those
> homepage titles, in order to display plain text. Or just accept the fact
> that it is unrendered (which looks really bad).
> 3. other???
>
> Thanks,
> Caty
>
> On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:03 PM, Iustin Insuratelu <
> iustin.insuratelu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Recently we've been discussing about a situation that creates some
> > inconveniences.
> >
> > What happens in short:
> > * Have multiple subwikis, each with different extensions
> > * Try to copy one content page from one wiki to another
> > * When you are using the Copy Dialog - you can see pages from other
> > subwikis. In that list the translations are broken.
> > * It's about the applications homepages that uses translations keys
for
> > their titles.
> >
> > You will get something similar to http://screencast.com/t/8aHY7dca
> > There are problems with translations visibility between subwikis.
> > Check:
> > * ideas
> > * filemanager
> > * xpoll
> > * notes
> >
> > You can get more details from:
> > * http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/NOTES-3
> > * http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XDOODLE-32
> > * http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/IDEAS-63
> >
> > The current solution (see
> > https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/application-ideas/pull/16) creates a
> few
> > glitches with installing that app on subwikis and programming rights.
> >
> > What we need is to define a rule that will be acceptable for the
entire
XE.
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
_______________________________________________
devs mailing list
devs(a)xwiki.org
http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs What are your thoughts on this?
Regards,
*Iustin*
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