4 Feb
2019
4 Feb
'19
12:50 p.m.
Dear developers,
Now that we consider notifications as an achieved replacement for both
Activity Stream and the Watchlist, I propose to stop maintaining them and
to move them into the "attic" section.
You need to know that we had a dependency on the Activity Stream API, as
the only implementation of the Event Stream, on which the Notifications are
based. So to get rid of this dependency (the code is not using our
component system and is not well tested), I have written a new
implementation of the Event Stream that I have called "Event Stream Store".
It's fully backward compatible with the old implementation, since it is
using the same Database schema. In practice, I re-used some pieces of
Activity Stream that I have modified to fit into components. For more
information, see: https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-16052
So my proposal is this one:
- use the new store in 11.1
- stop bundle Watchlist and AS in 11.1
- move Watchlist and AS into "attic" in 11.2
Thanks you,
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
4 Feb
4 Feb
2:35 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Get rid of Activity Stream and the Watchlist
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 12:50 PM Guillaume Delhumeau
<guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Dear developers,
Now that we consider notifications as an achieved replacement for both
Activity Stream and the Watchlist, I propose to stop maintaining them and
to move them into the "attic" section.
You need to know that we had a dependency on the Activity Stream API, as
the only implementation of the Event Stream, on which the Notifications are
based. So to get rid of this dependency (the code is not using our
component system and is not well tested), I have written a new
implementation of the Event Stream that I have called "Event Stream Store".
It's fully backward compatible with the old implementation, since it is
using the same Database schema. In practice, I re-used some pieces of
Activity Stream that I have modified to fit into components. For more
information, see: https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-16052
So my proposal is this one:
- use the new store in 11.1
- stop bundle Watchlist and AS in 11.1
Will 11.1 version be easily installable as extension (in case some old
extension needs it for example) ?
- move Watchlist and AS into "attic" in
11.2
Thanks you,
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
--
Thomas Mortagne
2:41 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Get rid of Activity Stream and the Watchlist
Le lun. 4 févr. 2019 à 14:35, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> a
écrit :
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 12:50 PM Guillaume Delhumeau
<guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
AS needs a custom property in hibernate.cfg.xml plus a special config in
xwiki.cfg (since it is a plugin), and the Watchlist needs AS to be
installed. So, in short, not easy installable.
Dear developers,
Now that we consider notifications as an achieved replacement for both
Activity Stream and the Watchlist, I propose to stop maintaining them and
to move them into the "attic" section.
You need to know that we had a dependency on the Activity Stream API, as
the only implementation of the Event Stream, on which the Notifications
are
based. So to get rid of this dependency (the code
is not using our
component system and is not well tested), I have written a new
implementation of the Event Stream that I have called "Event Stream
Store".
It's fully backward compatible with the old
implementation, since it is
using the same Database schema. In practice, I re-used some pieces of
Activity Stream that I have modified to fit into components. For more
information, see: https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-16052
So my proposal is this one:
- use the new store in 11.1
- stop bundle Watchlist and AS in 11.1
Will 11.1 version be easily installable as extension (in case some old
extension needs it for example) ?
- move Watchlist and AS into "attic" in
11.2
Thanks you,
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
--
Thomas Mortagne
5 Feb
5 Feb
11:33 a.m.
Hi Guillaume,
On 4 Feb 2019, at 12:50, Guillaume Delhumeau
<guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Dear developers,
Now that we consider notifications as an achieved replacement for both
Activity Stream and the Watchlist, I propose to stop maintaining them and
to move them into the "attic" section.
+1
You need to know that we had a dependency on the
Activity Stream API, as
the only implementation of the Event Stream, on which the Notifications are
based. So to get rid of this dependency (the code is not using our
component system and is not well tested), I have written a new
implementation of the Event Stream that I have called "Event Stream Store".
It's fully backward compatible with the old implementation, since it is
using the same Database schema. In practice, I re-used some pieces of
Activity Stream that I have modified to fit into components. For more
information, see: https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-16052
So my proposal is this one:
- use the new store in 11.1
Already in action! +1
- stop bundle Watchlist and AS in 11.1
+1
- move Watchlist and AS into "attic" in 11.2
IMO this could be done in 11.1 too since if we stop bundling Watchlist/AS then we don’t
need to keep the modules in platform.
Thanks
-Vincent
Thanks you,
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
11:37 a.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Get rid of Activity Stream and the Watchlist
Le mar. 5 févr. 2019 à 11:33, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> a écrit :
Hi Guillaume,
I wanted to release a new "official" version of AS before moving it to
attic, because I made a few changes on it (like moving some components that
had nothing to do in AS).
On 4 Feb 2019, at 12:50, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Dear developers,
Now that we consider notifications as an achieved replacement for both
Activity Stream and the Watchlist, I propose to stop maintaining them and
to move them into the "attic" section.
+1
You need to know that we had a dependency on the
Activity Stream API, as
the only implementation of the Event Stream, on which the Notifications
are
based. So to get rid of this dependency (the code
is not using our
component system and is not well tested), I have written a new
implementation of the Event Stream that I have called "Event Stream
Store".
It's fully backward compatible with the old
implementation, since it is
using the same Database schema. In practice, I re-used some pieces of
Activity Stream that I have modified to fit into components. For more
information, see: https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-16052
So my proposal is this one:
- use the new store in 11.1
Already in action! +1
- stop bundle Watchlist and AS in 11.1
+1
- move Watchlist and AS into "attic" in
11.2
IMO this could be done in 11.1 too since if we stop bundling Watchlist/AS
then we don’t need to keep the modules in platform.
Thanks
-Vincent
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
Thanks you,
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
6 Feb
6 Feb
4:10 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Get rid of Activity Stream and the Watchlist
+1
Thanks,
Marius
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 1:50 PM Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Dear developers,
Now that we consider notifications as an achieved replacement for both
Activity Stream and the Watchlist, I propose to stop maintaining them and
to move them into the "attic" section.
You need to know that we had a dependency on the Activity Stream API, as
the only implementation of the Event Stream, on which the Notifications are
based. So to get rid of this dependency (the code is not using our
component system and is not well tested), I have written a new
implementation of the Event Stream that I have called "Event Stream Store".
It's fully backward compatible with the old implementation, since it is
using the same Database schema. In practice, I re-used some pieces of
Activity Stream that I have modified to fit into components. For more
information, see: https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-16052
So my proposal is this one:
- use the new store in 11.1
- stop bundle Watchlist and AS in 11.1
- move Watchlist and AS into "attic" in 11.2
Thanks you,
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
7 Feb
7 Feb
2:39 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Get rid of Activity Stream and the Watchlist
+1 in general, but please consider migration issues, specially calls to the
{{activity/}} macro that will be still found in wiki pages that will stop
working if the ActivityStream (which is a macro) is removed.
Also, for anyone using or extending the ActivityStream plugin's API
directly, their code will fail. I doubt there were many (if any) users of
the relatively obscure EventStream API, so the effect of the backwards
compatible "Event Stream Store" implementation will not compensate for
much, IMO.
What I am personally concerned about is that, ideally, the upgrade to the
new XWiki version (which no longer bundles these modules) require as less
(preferably none) manual operations as possible.
Thanks,
Eduard
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:10 PM Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
+1
Thanks,
Marius
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 1:50 PM Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Dear developers,
Now that we consider notifications as an achieved replacement for both
Activity Stream and the Watchlist, I propose to stop maintaining them and
to move them into the "attic" section.
You need to know that we had a dependency on the Activity Stream API, as
the only implementation of the Event Stream, on which the Notifications
are
based. So to get rid of this dependency (the code
is not using our
component system and is not well tested), I have written a new
implementation of the Event Stream that I have called "Event Stream
Store".
It's fully backward compatible with the old
implementation, since it is
using the same Database schema. In practice, I re-used some pieces of
Activity Stream that I have modified to fit into components. For more
information, see: https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-16052
So my proposal is this one:
- use the new store in 11.1
- stop bundle Watchlist and AS in 11.1
- move Watchlist and AS into "attic" in 11.2
Thanks you,
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
3:21 p.m.
New subject: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Get rid of Activity Stream and the Watchlist
Le jeu. 7 févr. 2019 à 14:40, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com> a écrit :
+1 in general, but please consider migration issues,
specially calls to the
{{activity/}} macro that will be still found in wiki pages that will stop
working if the ActivityStream (which is a macro) is removed.
The UI of Activity Stream (which defines the macro you mentioned) is
already removed from XWiki Standard. But the retro-compatibility is handled
by
https://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Legacy%20Notification…
.
It's actually a good thing you that did not realized AS was not there
anymore :)
Also, for anyone using or extending the ActivityStream plugin's API
directly, their code will fail. I doubt there were many (if any) users of
the relatively obscure EventStream API, so the effect of the backwards
compatible "Event Stream Store" implementation will not compensate for
much, IMO.
What I am personally concerned about is that, ideally, the upgrade to the
new XWiki version (which no longer bundles these modules) require as less
(preferably none) manual operations as possible.
Thanks,
Eduard
On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 5:10 PM Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
+1
Thanks,
Marius
On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 1:50 PM Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
> Dear developers,
>
> Now that we consider notifications as an achieved replacement for both
> Activity Stream and the Watchlist, I propose to stop maintaining them
and
> to move them into the "attic"
section.
>
> You need to know that we had a dependency on the Activity Stream API,
as
the only
implementation of the Event Stream, on which the Notifications
are
based. So to get rid of this dependency (the code
is not using our
component system and is not well tested), I have written a new
implementation of the Event Stream that I have called "Event Stream
Store".
It's fully backward compatible with the old
implementation, since it is
using the same Database schema. In practice, I re-used some pieces of
Activity Stream that I have modified to fit into components. For more
information, see: https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-16052
So my proposal is this one:
- use the new store in 11.1
- stop bundle Watchlist and AS in 11.1
- move Watchlist and AS into "attic" in 11.2
Thanks you,
--
Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
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