Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal][UX] Notifications Improvements 9.8+

On 30 Oct 2017, at 18:46, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>

I've iterated how it would look inside the mail, see http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/

Still haven't found a solution for the avatar's group image, but the

is that when the user selects to receive the diffs in the mail, this user grouping is confusing.

For some events we display just the last change, not all the changes, or

display the whole diff, so it's kind of hard to tell which user did what. A solution would be to display the entries separate, each with its own diff. Not sure what is the best approach.

Thanks, Caty On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 4:26 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>

> wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 30, 2017 at 3:50 PM, Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; > wrote: >> >>> >>>> On 30 Oct 2017, at 12:27, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <

>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Caty, >>>>> >>>>> Thanks! >>>>> >>>>> There’ s something I don’t understand. Sometimes you have 2 icons

>>>>> sometimes only 1. >>>>> >>>> >>>> There is only 1 icon if the action is done by the "Pages" app, coming >>> from >>>> XWiki. >>>> I've considered that this is the main/default app, so we don't

>>> it. >>>> It's the default. >>>> So if you have created, edited, delete, commented on a normal page,

>>> get >>>> just the event action. >>>> If the page is special, coming from a particular application, then

>>> have >>>> an additional icon, marking the application. >>> >>> I find this highly confusing for my part :) >>> >>>> For me we always need 2 icons: >>>>> * one to represent the application (e.g. Pages app, Blog app, etc) >>>>> * one to represent the event (e.g. for the Paged app: Create,

>>>>> Delete, Comment. For the Blog app: Publish a blog post) >>>>> >>>>> So if we display the avatar this means 3 icons: one for the avatar, > one >>>>> for the app and one for the event. Maybe that’s a bit too much. >>>>> >>>>> Right now, on the proposals I see, I find it very confusing and I

>>>>> never figure out which is the app and which is the event. >>>>> >>>>> I think I would prefer the following: >>>>> * On the left, avatar in big + app in smaller on top of it >>>>> * On the right, icon for the event. Actually the icon could be in >>> addition >>>>> to the “text” (i.e. “edited by”, “published by”, “commented by”, >>> “deleted >>>>> by”, etc) or we could drop the icon for the event and only keep the >>> text. >>>>> >>>> >>>> I wouldn't drop the event icon since that's the most important piece

>>>> information now. >>> >>> I would not drop it but it’s already contained in the text on the

> so >>> that’s duplication. >>> >>> I’d use the avatar + the app and leave the event icon on the right or >>> simply drop it in favor of the text (either one). >>> >>>> The grouping is done by page and by event. >>>> You want to know if someone deleted a new entry or just edited in a > rapid >>>> way, without the need to read the text. >>> >>> I’d prefer to see who did something and what they modified. That’s > really >>> how I use XWiki’s AS the most personally. >>> >>> If the text is not visual enough the event icon is ok too but I

>>> put it on the left. >>> >>> In any case, you need consistency and all entries need to look the

>>> We must not have special cases as it makes it very hard to understand. >>> >> >> For me it was confusing seeing "Pages", since in XWiki everything is a > page >> and I don't have any application called Pages. I saw the addition of >> "Pages" as redundant. >> >> >>> >>>> >>>>> In your variations I don’t see one where the app icon is on the

>>>>> >>>> >>>> I have put all the icons on the left in order to be easier to scan

>>> them >>>> in collapsed and expanded form. Having the icons on the right made

>>>> layout very centered-heavy + you didn't had the extremities in order

>>>> scan for them. >>>> >>>> So Guillaume and Clement like the event-focused view. >>>> >>>> I don't particularly like the big event icons. I find them more cold > and >>>> less personal. So I prefer the users-centered version. >>> >>> Same here for the same reason, but… (see below) >>> >>>> I like: >>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/ >>> NotificationsImprovements9xTypes/userCentered_smallAvatars_

>>> >>> I don’t like the generic group image, it breaks the nice UI with > avatars. >>> We could maybe resize the avatars and display up to 4 and if beyond

>>> display some continuations symbol. >>> >> >> Not really sure how to display 4 avatars + in a nice way, while still > being >> the main focus. > > There’s another problem too actually. Not all events are related to > people. For example the “A new version of XWiki is available” event

> not have an avatar. However we could decide to use an “X” icon, > representing the xwiki.org entity/avatar. > > What I wouldn’t like is some generic image such as a bland group image.

> find that this breaks the concept of showing avatars. > > Thanks > -Vincent > >> >>>> Now I haven't created versions for all the combinations, but we

>>>> decide if: >>>> - we want user focused vs. event focused layout >>>> - expanded version should have users or events on the left; >>>> - the summary should contain avatars or not for the users (important > when >>>> there is a single user that did the event); >>>> - if / when we combine the users (when we have more than 2/3 users; >>> always; >>>> >>>> I am lacking some information in order to get some statistical > decisions. >>>> For example, in practice: >>>> - we have more individual events or more events done by multiple > people? >>>> - how common is to group also events? the example with blog published >>> that >>>> also has the create. Do we really need to display them? Also when >>> creating >>>> an user profile we launch a multitude of edit events, should all

> be >>>> displayed? >>>> >>>> Regarding the user vs. event focused layout: it's just in the layout > and >>>> what we display on the first position, since I've kept the current >>>> page/event grouping that is currently implemented. The decision

>>> on >>>> how everyone is using the wiki: are they more interested in activity >>> being >>>> done on the wiki or who actually did that activity? >>> >>> Both are needed and it depends on the usage I guess. My feeling is

>>> humans are good at relationships in a group and a picture speaks more > than >>> a generic icon for an app. You know who you work with, you know people > you >>> like, you know who you consider is a stranger, etc and you’ll want to > check >>> the diff and dive further based on that. The fact that the avatar is > shown >>> prominently will help that. >>> >>> Thanks >>> -Vincent >>> >>>> I like to see who did what, but if the Notifications implementation > will >>>> always group users and we will get the Group icon, than this might

> be >>>> very nice. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Caty >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks >>>>> -Vincent >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 27 Oct 2017, at 17:31, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < > valicac(a)gmail.com >>>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> So these are some more iterations for the notifications layout >>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>>>> NotificationsImprovements9xTypes >>>>>> >>>>>> I've played with User centered vs. Event centered and variants for >>>>>> displaying the avatars, user names and event names. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me know what version you prefer. Also you can fork the

>>> if >>>>>> you want to make some small changes. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Caty >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Vincent Massol <

>> >>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 11:24, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hello >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 2017-10-24 11:12 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt;et>: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Guillaume, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:58, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Any news on this? I'd like to implement this quickly because

>>> is >>>>>>>>> coming >>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This the current status: >>>>>>>>> * Caty proposed some improved layout for displaying

>>>>>>>>> * I commented about the need to display event + type, and about > the >>>>> need >>>>>>>>> to have a link to see the diff. I also mentioned that we need to >>> work >>>>> on >>>>>>>>> the mail template display >>>>>>>>> * Caty replied and updated her proposal to take into account

>>>>>>>>> comments. >>>>>>>>> * I kind of like Caty’s proposal focused on the user. We want to >>> favor >>>>>>>>> contributions and I think it helps. It also makes the UI more >>>>> appealing >>>>>>>>> visually. >>>>>>>>> * You mentioned that you’d prefer a proposal more focused on the >>> event >>>>>>>>> rather than the user >>>>>>>>> * Thomas agrees with you >>>>>>>>> * Edy mentioned some extra points >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have also mentioned that the diff we propose is too technical

>>>>> many >>>>>>>> users. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yes and we have 4 solutions: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> * Solution 1: make it simpler to understand for everyone >>>>>>> * Solution 2: have a wiki admin UI level option to select whether

>>>>>>> include diff or not in the default template + user-level profile

>>>>> option >>>>>>> (ie. per user) >>>>>>> * Solution 3: have a singe button in the mail, that, when clicked, >>>>>>> displays the diff (which is hidden by default) >>>>>>> * Solution 4: implement 2 mail templates (one for simple users and > one >>>>> for >>>>>>> advanced users) and let the users choose in their profile which

>>> they >>>>>>> want to receive + have a wiki admin UI level option to decide

> is >>>>> the >>>>>>> default when not overridden by the user. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So I guess we need to decide about whether we show the avatar as > in >>>>>>> Caty’s >>>>>>>>> proposal or not, right? Is that what you’re asking about > Guillaume? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On my side, I don’t see the issue in displaying the user avatar >>> large >>>>> vs >>>>>>>>> small. The events are still ordered by page events. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-23 13:19 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt;gt;: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Note that you have a mail template for the notifications too. > It's >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/blob/ >>>>>>>>>>> 83b76ed4c26954aa2755bbdce23b32c41725ac06/xwiki-platform- >>>>>>>>>>> core/xwiki-platform-notifications/xwiki-platform- >>>>>>>>>>> notifications-ui/src/main/resources/XWiki/Notifications/ >>>>>>>>>>> MailTemplate.xml#L23 but it's not documented yet. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This mail template allows you to customize the header and the >>> footer >>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>> the email, but not the actual content. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To be precise, each *event type* can have its own template or >>>>> failback >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> the default one (https://github.com/xwiki/

: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Guillaume, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 17 Oct 2017, at 07:16, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some ideas. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I have feedback about the fact the diff is way too technical > for >>>>>>>>> users. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Example: "What does it means???" > https://img15.hostingpics.net/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> pics/670307example1.png >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So we could hide this in a "technical details" link. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> That’s one option but there’s another which is to provide the >>>>> ability >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> choose which mail template to use in the Admin and provide >>> several >>>>>>>>>>>> templates for different needs. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> For example for the xwiki.org watchlist we absolutely need

> be >>>>>>> able >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> see the diffs without clicking a “technical details” link for >>> each >>>>>>>>>>>> notification. It could be ok if there’s a single “technical >>>>> details” >>>>>>>>> link >>>>>>>>>>>> for ALL notifications that shows all diffs at once. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The "details" link could be replaced by a "more" link, with

>>> very >>>>>>>>>>>>> simplified diff (the complete diff would go the the

>>>>>>> details >>>>>>>>>>>> view). >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In the body of the event, in addition with the title of the >>>>>>> document, >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>>> could add some extracts of the diff. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Example taken on gmail: >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/763456example2.png >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I hope it helps, >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-12 15:38 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <

>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks nice. Does it work in all mail clients that support > HTML? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'd like an option to show the details for all events as >>>>> otherwise >>>>>>>>> it's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> too painful to have to open all one by one (for the use

>>> when >>>>>>> you >>>>>>>>>>>> want >>>>>>>>>>>>>> to check everything). >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same as Guillaume: not all events are page-related events.

>>> we >>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> handle those too. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 12 Oct 2017, at 15:03, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all, it looks very nice. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, you said the events are displayed like in the >>>>> notifications, >>>>>>>>> but >>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the notifications they are ordered by dates, not by pages. >>> Does >>>>>>> your >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> proposal imply to change the ordering? What about events > that >>> do >>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concern any page (like: "a new wiki has been created" or

>>> new >>>>>>>>> XWiki >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> version is available")? We don't have such events for now > but >>> we >>>>>>>>> plan >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have some soon. We could display them last for example. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Nice CSS expand! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks you, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-12 14:47 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>>>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> This is a proposal for the Notifications mail: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9xEmail >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've continued with the 'user' avatar focused proposal, > since >>>>>>> I've >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> currently focused on the email template. If we drop the > user >>>>>>> avatar >>>>>>>>>>>>>> (since >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> we group multiple users) then we can have the event/app > icon >>>>>>>>> instead >>>>>>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> avatar. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What I want to have feedback on is the email layout, >>>>>>> functionality >>>>>>>>>>>> (tree >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> navigation, details expanding) and styling. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You can play with the Prototype >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://jsfiddle.net/risherry/cj25759w/embedded/#Result >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we were to translate to the mail template, there are > still >>>>>>> some >>>>>>>>>>>>>> things >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to be tested (like translating the CSS selectors into > inline, >>>>>>>>> decide >>>>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> email clients we support, etc.) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-03 17:32 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com&gt; wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-02 18:09 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol < >>>>> vincent(a)massol.net >>>>>>>> : >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:08, Vincent Massol < >>>>> vincent(a)massol.net >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:05, Vincent Massol < >>>>>>> vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another feedback/questions: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Is the avatar icon clickable and leading to the > user >>>>>>>>> profile? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * We need a way to link directly to the diff, at > least >>>>> for >>>>>>>>> page >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so that the user can see what was modified (as we

>>>>>>>>> currently >>>>>>>>>>>> in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AS) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Maybe “2 hours ago” is not precise enough. In your >>>>>>> example I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> created and modified the Roadmap page but they both

>>> “2 >>>>>>>>> hours >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ago”. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn’t I be able to see how far away both events > were >>>>>>> done? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My understanding is that events are grouped by

>>> but >>>>>>> not >>>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> entity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore (for page events) and thus you can have 3 > events >>>>>>>>>>>> displayed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same page, f.ex: Creation, Modification, Deletion. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> And you could also have different users grouped in the >>> same >>>>>>>>>>>> composite >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> event. So when you display the details, it would be

>>> to >>>>>>> show >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> user >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> made each event, and I see you have removed this info. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The focus of this proposal is on user, compared to the > old >>>>> one, >>>>>>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on the app/doc. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Close to what we have on Facebool. So it didn't made > sense >>>>> that >>>>>>>>> we >>>>>>>>>>>> say >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a page has been edited by vmassol, and that the details >>>>>>> showcase >>>>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> multiple user actually did the edit. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In Facebook, you have it actually: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pasteboard.co/GOioRAT.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On XWiki, we have the following (already implemented): >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://pasteboard.co/GOiqgYf.png >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:01, Vincent Massol < >>>>>>> vincent(a)massol.net >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Ecaterina Moraru

> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Event Type: BlogPostPublishedEvent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x#HEventTypes >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok thanks, had missed this since I was reading

>>> top >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bottom >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stopped at the overview :) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I don’t think it scales since it means one >>>>> unique >>>>>>>>> icon >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> per >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of app type + event type. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would scale better is two icons: one for the > app >>>>> type >>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the event type. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example imagine that the Blog app had the >>> following >>>>>>>>>>>> events: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is published >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is created >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is removed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You wouldn’t be able to use the RSS icon to > represent >>>>> the >>>>>>> 3 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> events. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW the RSS icon isn’t necessarily representative

>>> the >>>>>>>>> Blog >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> app. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> A >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of apps can have a RSS feed. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s the main remark I have: it’s going to be > harder >>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> harder >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find unique icons as we had more events to apps, >>> especially >>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there’s >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 icon that is supposed to combine both app type + > event >>>>>>> type. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Vincent Massol < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Caty, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:21, Ecaterina Moraru > (Valica) >>> < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've created some improvements suggestions for > our >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Notifications >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> UI, see >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you think. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re the overview, I don’t see where you mention

>>>>> app? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, could you show how a new Blog post >>> would >>>>> be >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> displayed >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and you >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differentiate that for example from a Page > creation >>> or >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modification? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com) >>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS >>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project > >