9 Nov
2015
9 Nov
'15
11:56 a.m.
Thanks for your feedbacks!
If you check how all enterprise software out there do pricing, it’s almost always per
user. So IMO counting users is a good approximation of the size of an xwiki instance (you
don’t create users for nothing in general). It’s an easy figure to get (I can probably
implement it in 1 hour), while counting activity is much more complex to do. Also note
that it’s possible to regularly clean the AS and if you have a very large wiki you’ll
probably want to do this regularly.
Counting page views is also difficult from inside XWiki since you’d need to introduce a
new table in the DB for it but more importantly it’s going to affect your performances
when you save that number.
I agree that number of documents could be interesting too but XE by default comes with
over 700 and when users install extensions more are added without it being a good
indicator of usage of the wiki. Still I think it’s interesting.
So what I’m proposing to do right now is sending:
* number of wikis
* number of users
* number of documents
* number of AS events (count on the table)
I’m not saying it’s enough but let’s talk incremental and we can always add new metrics
later on as we learn how to get them.
So WDYT about adding those for now? Do you see any privacy issues?
Thanks
-Vincent
On 9 Nov 2015 at 11:29:17, Guillaume Louis-Marie Delhumeau (gdelhumeau(a)xwiki.com) wrote:
Why not the amount of Activity Stream events during the last month? It's
still very anonymous (since we don't know what exactly are these events)
and relevant.
+ the amount of pages view during the last month (a wiki could have a lot
of pages view meanwhile it is not edited often)
I think these 2 metrics could be good indicators.
Thanks,
Guillaume
2015-11-09 1:12 GMT+01:00 Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu>lu>:
On Sun, Nov 8, 2015 at 11:40 PM, vincent(a)massol.net
<vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
Hi devs,
Right now, during the Active Installs ping we send a certain number of
information (
http://extensions.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Active+Installs+Client…
)
which allow us to have this dashboard:
http://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/ActiveInstalls/
This allows us to have an idea of how XWiki’s usage is moving forward
(whether it’s growing, reducing or is stable). This also allows us to try
new changes in new XWiki versions and see how that affects the number of
active installs, thus validating or invalidating the changes.
Since XWiki is a Server software, I was thinking that the number of
instances around the world isn't really a good indicator of how much
XWiki
is used by users. Imagine an XWiki instance with
10K users. Right now
it’s
counted the same as an instance with 1 user. That
doesn’t seem quite
right
since the instance with 10K users shows a much
more important usage of
XWiki.
Thus I was thinking that we could add sending both the total number of
users (from all subwikis) + the number of wikis, for the current XWiki
instance.
While I agree with the fact that number of instance alone is not a good
indicator of XWiki’s usage, I also do not see the number of users so
significant, because you can have thousand of users that never login to the
wiki. More than just volume, what really shows the usage are activities.
A good indicator would be to report the number of distinct login during the
last 24 hours. Other interesting indicator would be the number of documents
(existing, changed, delta between creation/deletion), activity stream could
also be a source for measuring the level of activity of a wiki.
Btw, measuring the level of activity of a wiki is also a need for farm
administrators who needs to detect used and unused subwiki.
> Since the data is anonymous and there’s no way to link it to any
> company/user, I don’t feel it would generate a privacy issue.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent