15 Oct
2015
15 Oct
'15
9:41 a.m.
Hi,
On 15 Oct 2015 at 09:10:36, Guillaume Lerouge
(guillaume@xwiki.com(mailto:guillaume@xwiki.com)) wrote:
Hi,
I agree with Paul on this. To me, it could work a bit like the "hidden doc"
checkmark. We can show it only for advanced users and/or admins if needed.
Since there are plenty of use cases and they depend on the wiki and the condition could be
as complex as can imagine, I’d do it like this:
* Add a new XObject to control the display of the docextra tab and its elements. This
XObject should have 2 properties:
** One being a multi-select Select to choose the tabs to hide (Comments, History, etc)
** The other being a textarea property where we can put script and if this script
evaluates to true (some variable is set to true) then hide the selected items from the
Select.
* For backward-compatibility we should continue to honor the velocity variables
* We should also continue to offer space-level settings (Page Elements option in the Admin
UI), see https://www.evernote.com/l/AHd7c8OU6edOd7rBKqIqXpxzFweaMV4LzM0 but we should also
refactor it to use a multi-select Select instead to make it easier to decide to display
none or all of the tabs.
Alternative 1:
* Instead of an XObject, put this inside the Page-level Administration (the 2 fields) and
also add the script field for Space-level admin for consistency
Alternative 2:
* Instead of having 2 xproperties in the XObject only have a single script field and set
the docextra velocity variables in there (based on some conditions if we want).
Alternative 3:
* Add a radio group xproperty in the XObject for predefined behavior (if the script
xproperty is filled then it takes precedence). I can think of 2 predefined values in the
radio group:
** “Always hide”
** “Hide for Simple Users"
The current practice, which implies putting a
{{velocity}} tag with
docextra = [] on each home page feels a bit antiquated…
As mentioned above, note that we have a UI,
see https://www.evernote.com/l/AHd7c8OU6edOd7rBKqIqXpxzFweaMV4LzM0
WDYT?
Thanks
-Vincent
As for the list itself, it looks good to me as well.
Thanks,
Guillaume
On Wed, Oct 14, 2015 at 9:55 PM, Paul Libbrecht wrote:
> Would it make sense, in this case, to make a checkbox that is displayed
> to admins in case the docextra tab is hidden?
> (maybe this would edit a webpreferences object?)
>
> It seems to me that the desire to hide the docextra tab is for any page
> that displays some kind of summary: you'd expect the docextra function
> on "data pages" not on "summary pages"; i suppose this is likely
to be
> the case of many other pages.
>
> Paul
>
> > Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
> > 14 octobre 2015 19:19
> > Hi,
> >
> > #docextra tabs are particular important for content pages where users are
> > encouraged to comment, attach, revise history, etc.
> >
> > But since XWiki is more than a wiki and the application usage has
> > expanded,
> > we removed the #docextra tab from many XWiki Contrib applications, like:
> > File Manager, Forum, Calendar, etc.
> >
> > The logic behind was that the applications have as main purpose the
> > management of applications entities, not commenting for example.
> >
> > Also with the Flamingo Skin, the shortcuts to Comments, Attachments, etc.
> > can be found in the 'More actions' menu.
> >
> > So, my question to you is: What do you think about removing the #docextra
> > also for default/bundled applications like:
> > - Blog.WebHome
> > - Dashboard.WebHome
> > - Panels.WebHome
> > - Scheduler.WebHome
> > - Stats.WebHome
> > - Main.WebHome?
> >
> > If we adopt this practice we could document it on:
> > http://contrib.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome#HApplicationDesign
> or
> >
> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/ApplicationDevelopmentBestPra…
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Caty
>