Re: [xwiki-devs] Hidden documents

Hi Thanks Denis for raising this again, it's indeed a pretty annoying issue On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 4:17 PM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote: > On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 15:57, Denis Gervalle <dgl(a)softec.lu> wrote: >> Hi Devs, >> >> Anyone of you will surely agree that the hidden document feature implemented >> in the store is very bad. > > The way this "feature" is implemented should never have been accepted, > it just broke an API for something that is not really related to > storage... > > See http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-3925 and its dependencies. > >> IMO, it has never been fully implemented, probably in the hope of a better >> way to go, and it is so for too long. I think it is the time to take some >> decision about it, or I do not see the direction and I do not understand >> where we want to go ? >> >> I see 3 possibilities: >>  1) we remove it and found other way to solve the problem it solves, which >> are currently limited to the Blog, ColorThemes and Panels applications in a >> standard XE. > > +1 > >>  2) we keep it as it is, since it could be hard to implement higher in the >> current implementation, but then we need to fix the places where it cause >> issues. > > -1, I can see it as a long term solution. It's something to say we > will fix it latter it's something else to validate it. Adding a > boolean to searchDocument as indicated in > http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XWIKI-3925 would already be a lot > better than the current situation. Yes... Even if a lot of extensions/snippet will have to be changed to set that boolean (copy space, selective export, etc.)

Jerome > >>  3) we implement the feature using another method ? > > I don't fully understand what is the difference between 1) and 3). > >> >> If we choose 1), early in 3.x release is the probably best moment for it, >> since it is a breakage in compatibility, I am -0 on this however. >> >> If we choose 2), we need to make it work properly by fixing places where we >> need to include all document, including hidden one. I have some old patch to >> the application-manager to export hidden document (ie: currently the blog >> application does not export properly),  to the skinx plugin that does not >> apply 'always' skin extensions contained in hidden document, and there is >> probably other places. >> >> If we choose 3) now, what do you proposed to better implement it. I have >> read some comments that it was a UI level stuff implemented at the store >> level, but I do not see how it could be done better in the current >> implementation. >> >> Moreover, if we keep the feature, I think that it should be exposed somehow >> to the admins, allowing the creation of hidden document, but also listing >> them, deleting them properly, etc... Concerning the document provided with >> XE, I also wonder what could be the rules for hiding them or not ? Why not >> also hidding stock document in the XWiki space, just keeping users and some >> top level documents ? >> >> WDYT ? >> >> -- >> Denis Gervalle >> SOFTEC sa - CEO >> eGuilde sarl - CTO >> _______________________________________________ >> devs mailing list >> devs(a)xwiki.org >> http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs >> > > > > -- > Thomas Mortagne > _______________________________________________ > devs mailing list > devs(a)xwiki.org > http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs > _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs