Yes it should be configurable where the class should be
We also need a list of Applications somewhere so that you can find your
application easily.
Ludovic
2011/11/29 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>
Hi,
One of the bad things in the structure of the AppWithinMinutes is that all
new user classes are created inside AppWithinMinutes space.
First of all is kind of hard to distinguish what are internal code pages
and what pages were created during my test (TestClass, TestHome, TestSheet,
etc.).
Maybe some page name convension would be helpful for pages like: DBList,
Date, etc.
This mixing of pages will make harder also the export of one specific
application and it's pages.
Just a thought,
Caty
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 16:19, Marius Dumitru Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Caty.. I can see that you spent a lot of time
testing but the only
purpose of the AppWithinMinutes home page, as it is right now, is to
expose the class editor and the live table generator in XE 3.3M2,
which means it's temporary. This thread is about the AppWithinMinutes
wizard I have committed yesterday, which, as I wrote in my mail, is
located at AppWithinMinutes.CreateApplication page. I'm afraid some of
your comments below are not relevant in the context of the wizard. I
will reply to the relevant ones.
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 3:15 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Marius,
I'm gonna list some thoughts as I test what you did. I didn't read
anything
that Ludo wrote so these will be my first
impressions and not a
continuation of the discussion. Some items may be very fined grained,
but I
> will list them in order to remember them.
>
> *AppWithinMinutes.WebHome*
> - Some fields validation about what fields are required or not. If you
> press the buttons without entering anything in the fields you don't
know
if
something happened or not.
- "Class Name" field - some suggest would be nice in order to know what
classes can be edited. Especially if I need to write them in Space.Page
form. Very nice that I can edit XWiki.XWikiUsers
- "Create/Edit Class": I've entered "Class
Name"='TestClass' and I was
very
> surprised that the title of that class was "Class: Test" and not
"Class:
> TestClass"
> *
>
> ?editor=inline&sheet=AppWithinMinutes.ClassEditSheet*
> - First time when you enter the editor, the pages "TestTemplate" and
> "TestSheet" are displayed as non-created. Why don't you create them
from
start?
- Check icon's title is "Hide configuration panel" - should be "Apply
changes" or "Save configuration" or "Save" or "Save
changes" or :)
It doesn't save the changes. I'm fine with "Hide configuration panel
and apply changes".
- I cannot drag something at the start of my form or in between what
fields
already exists. It adds the new field at the
bottom and than I need to
reorder. Very annoying.
I know, but it's not a priority IMO.
>
> - No error if I put the same "Name" on multiple fields. The error
appears
> on "Save". The error is not
contextual. I mean to use the xError for
the
specific
problematic fields.
I didn't have time to implement client-side validation. I agree it's
important but we won't have it in the first version.
>
> - General remark: I really hate the "Editor: ---" thing. When you
reload
the page
it appears the WYSIWYG (because that is the default). Should
write
"Default editor" instead of
"---", because IMO "---" means "None"
- On hitting "Enter" is always re-saves. Don't know if this is a good
thing
or not, but is not an explicit user action. I did
not hit the "Save"
myself: maybe I was just testing and I didn't want to make any
modification
> on the form (now my name is in the history and everybody will know I
was
> here :) )
>
> - I would like to have the "Preview" button back in order to see how
the
> form looks like (even if it's an WYSIWYG
mode somehow), but if I have
my
configurations open.
- I was expecting to see my generated form when I press "Save&View" or
when
> I go to the page AppWithinMinutes.TestClass (not an empty page)
>
> - /view/AppWithinMinutes/TestClass - I wanted to go back in the
> AppWithinMinutes editor, I pressed "Edit": took me to "WYSIWYG",
pressed
> "Class" took me to class editor,
then I remembered I need to press
> "Inline". How do I get back? //Later//: "Edit Class" is only on
the
page
created
for the livetable.
- Adding "Number" and writing some characters in it didn't wield any
error.
//Later//: Also when you create a new entry the
default character value
is
not present (because it was not a number), but if
you put again
characters
instead of numbers: they don't get displayed,
but again no warning or
correction
Falls in the "client-side validation" category.
>
> - "Configure" is kind of an "Advanced params" until I get to the
"Static
List", when I am unable to edit the choices. I would prefer to have the
default selection when I hit the checkbox/radio only. If I double click
on
the choice name can I have the
"Configure" opened? In order to see that
there is the place where I need to change the values. Or open the
"Configure" if a double click the whole area.
I don't like the double-clicking idea.
- The preview only on "Hide configuration panel" is kind of annoying.
Again
that entry should be named "Save
changes" or something. I pressed
"Multiple
Select", it auto-changed the "Display
Type" to "checkbox", but this
change
> is not visible. I try to look for a way to mark my change, so I'm out
of
> field's area, so the toolbox for the
field is not visible. Maybe if you
> have the configuration zone open we should keep the field's toolbox,
even
if we are
not hovering the area: in order for the Check to be more
visible.
Keeping the toolbox visible when the configuration panel is shown is
an interesting idea.
>
> - Again about the auto-preview: if I hit Enter in a input, the page
gets
> saved. Can't it also refresh the preview
with the change I did also?
I'm
> talking about changing the "Rows"
for a Textarea zone: put "4", pressed
> "Enter", page gets saved, but in order to get the textarea resized I
need
to
refresh the page or hit "Hide configuration panel".
> Obs: After adding "Static list" or "Checkbox" fields the save
behavior
on
inputs
disappeared. (not sure this is the reason)
I think this is just the browser behavior.
- "Static List" values - missing an active state for the Choice being
edited. The hover color, should be preserved to mark the active value
being
edited.
Agree.
>
> - Not sure what "Sort" does. I don't see any change in the sorting.
> Shouldn't the choice be rearranged?
>
> - Regarding the "Date" field: would be nicer if the "06/11/2011
14:41:26"
> info would be presented in the
"cds_top" instead of "cds_footer" and
have
> the "X" instead of "Ok"
near this (at the top).
> If it's at the top is easier to compare the "current value" with the
"new
value".
"@" is kind of cryptic and geekish. You have place to put "Time",
especially if you remove the "Ok" and make it an "X"
- Not sure what "Update class template" and "Update class sheet" mean
but I
don't care. Could be in an advanced
configuration zone for the form
(class).
*AppWithinMinutes.WebHome*
"Generate Livetable"
- I've entered a non existing class "NewClass" and a random target -
worked, but maybe I should have an option to create that non existing
class
> somewhere
>
> - If I put "NewClass" in the "Class Name" and nothing in the
"Target
Page
Name" takes me to the editor (AppWithinMinutes/NewClass?editor=inline),
not
to the Livetable Generator - hmmm
- "Columns" is always white initially or after an add operation - could
be
> a text there "Add column" (with gray + italic) to encourage clicking
>
> - After the table was generated there are some problems with
translations
> in the header:
"$msg.get('xe.livetable.select.all')", "$l10n_value",
etc.
but this
is a snapshot
- I tried to open in another tab the "Add
new entry" :)
I know, but I didn't want to spend time on this (read the URL fragment
on page load and show the dialog).
- "Edit class" is not working - takes me to the WYSIWYG
- "Add new entry" works, but the new page is not displayed in the
livetable
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Marius, very nice work. Hope my feedback will
help you.
It helps. Thanks,
Marius
> Thanks,
> Caty
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 14:25, Marius Dumitru Florea <
> mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>> Hi devs,
>>
>> I just committed a first version of the AppWithinMinutes wizard. If
>> you want to try it then download the latest XE 3.3 snapshot and visit
>> AppWithinMinutes.CreateApplication page.
>>
>> Waiting for feedback,
>> Marius
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