14 Jun
2017
14 Jun
'17
12:34 p.m.
Hi Caty,
On 14 Jun 2017, at 12:04, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hi devs,
This roadmap we had 2 suggestions:
- "Find a way of avoiding to have 2 "Add" entries ("+" and
"Add new
entry")" in AWM
- "Drop down on "+" Menu + Admin UI to select some templates"
What we have implemented so far was:
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14310
"Propose and pre-select "recommended" templates in the create UI based on
the current location"
So now, if you go to the Blog app and create on the "+" button, since Blog
provides a template with a create restriction, the "Blog" template will be
preselected.
Also, AWM has the option to create a template for each application the
users create. So after you created your app with AWM and go to the "+"
button, the app template will be preselected.
This will allow us in the future to remove the AWM actions area and rely on
the "+" button.
In the future, we could also separate templates in their own "Recommended"
category. A separate category will be necessary for applications that
provide multiple related templates (like Forum for example that will
contain the Forum, Topic templates) or in the more general case when
multiple templates are recommended for the current location. Currently we
are doing only sorting and preselecting the first one.
In terms of implementation we just need to make sure all our recommended
apps provide template providers and after that we could change the UI for
AWM and remove the "Add" action from the actions area.
Now, I want to ask your opinion on the suggestion to add a dropdown for the
"+" button.
Some input:
- a dropdown will not be scalable: you cannot have more than a few options
there;
You mean with bootstrap?
Because otherwise we could open some popup when clicking the + with some dialog box
allowing to search and choose a template.
- in a dropdown you cannot specify the page name;
- in the dropdown you cannot change or specify another location - you
always need to go to the page first and after choose a template from the
dropdown list;
- you will only see an admin selection of templates - so we invalidate the
templates filtering and you cannot even choose another template after your
initial selection;
- we make the current create step deprecated, since users will not see it
anymore.
It’s Ludovic who suggested "Drop down on "+" Menu + Admin UI to select some
templates” and AFAIU his idea is to separate the Add action into 2 different steps:
* Step 1: select the template first, directly when click on the +
* Step 2: you still get the current Add UI where you choose the page name, location, etc
but you don’t see the template part anymore (ie there’s no need to have a 2 columns view
anymore). Note that maybe there should be a one liner with the name/icon of the selected
template with a pencil button to change it if need be.
The main reason of this request was to increase
visibility and order for
the templates.
Another reason could be to reduce the complexity of the current Add screen.
In the user recording sessions I've seen and with
the current layout (2
columns, templates on right) users don't have problems seeing the
"Templates" section in the Create step.
Now, for the ordering / selection - the current mechanism of automatic
ordering is a step in that direction - but sure we could implement more
(like the separate category I described earlier).
Another difference between what was asked and what was currently
implemented is that now the selection comes from the Template Provider;
while the idea was to allow the Administrator to select the displayed
Templates. With the current implementation we can still create an
administration UI to select them and save the changes in the Template
Providers, in a future iteration.
My opinion:
* I don’t understand why this would increase visibility for templates. I think that’s just
a matter of deciding on the order of how we present information on the Create page UI. We
need to decide if it’s better for users to choose first page name + location or template
first. FTR Confluence chooses the type first too:
https://confluence.atlassian.com/conf56/creating-content-658736830.html#Cre…
* I think it feels a bit weird to have a 2 steps process with different types of UIs
(dropdown first and then add page dialog)
* If we think that the Add page UI is too complex, one solution is to have a 2 steps
wizard where users start selecting the type (Template) and then the other information
(page name, location) as a second step
* We need to decide if we wish to keep the current Create UI implementation or instead use
a popup overlay wizard (with 2 steps).
Thanks
-Vincent
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So the question is:
- Do you have other ideas on how we could solve the requests?
- What do you think about having a dropdown with the templates selection -
compared to a recommended category in the creation step?
Thanks,
Caty