16 May
2013
16 May
'13
4:54 p.m.
On May 16, 2013, at 4:47 PM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
On Thu, May 16, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
What I'm saying is that I don't think it's worth the effort. By worth I mean
the ratio between the effort and problems it'll require from us vs the # of windows
dev not using cygwin that'll want to develop for the xwiki project…
We're going to loose at least a month before we've finished that migration
completely and I'm really worried about the toll it'll have on our releases...
Thanks
-Vincent
PS: With the same group effort we could release a first version of the new model for
example ;)
I'm rather -0 ATM and very close to -1
because:
1) I haven't heard from a windows dev for a long time, I don't think that happens
that often
And it's surely not going to improve...
2) It's a *huge* change and it should definitely not be done lightly. We would need
to plan a period like 2 full days, all devs would need to stop working on what they do and
help out. For example all pages on xwiki.org having some github links are going to be
broken and will need to be updated (that's probably around hunded of pages overall)
Yes it's a huge change, that's why it's a vote.
3) Windows devs have a simple solution which is
to use cygwin so it's not a blocker
It's not as trivial as you seems to think and it also mean that you
simply can't use the standard git tools in the Windows world like the
Github application or Tortoisegit without speaking or any EDI git
integration... so not it really can't be seen as some obvious
solution. And it's not like using Cygwin was some king of standard for
Windows dev. "use cyggwin" is easy to say but the reality is that a
dev will try to clone XWiki repository with the git tool he is used to
and will simply can't, period. > Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> On May 16, 2013, at 4:14 PM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
>
>> Reviving http://markmail.org/message/hlnqke3igkbec332 for as an official vote.
>>
>> We have waited way too long and I think we really need to find a
>> solution even if none of the committers use Windows since a long time.
>> Every time a Windows dev even think of contributing he is very quickly
>> discouraged...
>>
>> As a reminder the issue is that working on XWiki source code is a pain
>> for MS Windows developers because of the (impossible to understand I
>> agree) limitation on path size.
>>
>> So the idea is to find a new logical rule to drastically shorten our
>> paths and Sergiu proposed the following: remove duplicated information
>> from our paths to maven modules.
>>
>> Here is an example:
>>
>>
xwiki-platform-core/xwiki-platform-rendering/xwiki-platform-rendering-transformations/xwiki-platform-rendering-transformation-macro
>> (131 chars)
>>
>> would become
>>
>> core/rendering/transformations/macro (36 chars)
>>
>> So WDYT ?
>>
>> Here is my +1
>>
>> I also find it nicer when navigating using cd and tab in a unix shell anyway.
>>
>> Planning to do it in 5.1 if everyone agree.
>>
>> --
>> Thomas Mortagne