22 Jun
2017
22 Jun
'17
9:40 p.m.
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
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Thomas Mortagne
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 5:01 PM, Thomas Mortagne
<thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
report
Sorry for the trouble, Thomas.
However, we could look at it the other way as well. If you have moved to
another way of receiving user emails (user setting on your forum profile),
maybe one option would be to unsubscribe from users(a)xwiki.org (once the
setup is complete and it is read-only). This would allow us to keep the
list archived and in use by people that still prefer it, while allowing
people that prefer direct mails from discourse to avoid being spammed by
both solutions.
WDYT?
Thanks,
Eduard
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Eduard Moraru
<enygma2002(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
> I would really like to still be able to use 1
tool, i.e. currently the
mail
> client, to read the mails for either devs or
users. Sure, answering to
> users should be done on discourse, but I would not like to have to
juggle
yet
another service.
This does not have much to do with the users mailing list. As I
explained to you on IRC you can very well receive all discourse
messages by mail if you want which is exactly what I do (I never go to
forum.xwiki.org directly, only from some mail I received).
>
> I understand that what you describe seems like a bug. Did we try to > it to discourse? On a quick google I'm
unable to find such a behavior
> described. We could try reporting it otherwise.
>
> P.S.: I have re-enabled the "Enable
mailing list mode" option to the
> discourse mailman user. Will watch it to see when/if it gets disabled
again.
I'm not a big fan of getting an close to unreadable duplicate of all
the discourse mails which is what I get right now.
We moved to a forum so let's live with it and let people decide if
they want mails not. If you want mails just enable them in your
profile.
Receiving all messages from forum.xwiki.org without having an account
there is really not a valid use case. If we want to store discourse
messages on markmail then let's give direct markmail mail to discourse
instead of going trough users mailing list which does not make any
sense.
>
> Thanks,
> Eduard
>
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 3:36 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
>
>>
>> > On 22 Jun 2017, at 14:35, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >> On 22 Jun 2017, at 14:09, Eduard Moraru <enygma2002(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Guys, I thought we were going to make the users list read-only, not
>> disable
>> >> it completely. This is now what was discussed, AFAIK.
>> >
>> > Where did you see that? At least that’s not my proposal. My proposal
is
>> to make it read only.
>> >
>> >> Right now, I haven't received a mail on the users list since 12th
of
>> June.
>> >
>> > I haven’t made it readonly yet so I don’t know if it’s normal or not.
>>
>> FTR just noticed 2 users have contacted me telling me they cannot post
to
>> the user list anymore. So someone must
have changed something on the
user
>> list, but it’s not me :)
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>>
>> >
>> >> AFAIR, a proposed flow was to receive mails of the discussions and,
if
>> you
>> >> want to reply, you'd follow the reply link in the mail an open the
>> >> discourse browser window.
>> >>
>> >> So, only discourse could be able to publish to the list, all other
list
>> >> users would get rejected.
>> >
>> > The proposal was:
>> > * Make the list readonly except for a given discourse user who’d have
>> user(a)xwiki.org as its email so that we can still archive discussions
done
>> with discourse on markmail, nabble, etc.
>> >
>> > However:
>> > * I have configured a user having user(a)xwiki.org as its email and in
>> “mailing list mode” but after it sends its first mail, the “mailing
list
>> mode” is automatically disabled and I
don’t know why.
>> >
>> > Conclusion so far:
>> > * We need to make the list readonly. I’ll do this next week when I
find
>> some time.
>> > * I don’t know how to fix the issue listed above
>> > * In any case I don’t think it’s that important that we don’t archive
>> discourse discussions on markmail so I’m fine with dropping this part.
>> >
>> > Thanks
>> > -Vincent
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >> Thanks,
>> >> Eduard
>> >>
>> >> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 8:55 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>>
>> >>>> On 2 Jun 2017, at 19:50, Marius Dumitru Florea <
>> >>> mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Fri, Jun 2, 2017 at 2:14 AM, Vincent Massol <
vincent(a)massol.net>
>> >>> wrote:
>> >>>>
>> >>>>> Hi devs,
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Now that our forum is working well I’d like to propose to
make
the
>> users
>> >>>>> list readonly and move all users to the forum.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> It's a small thing but very annoying: is there a way to
reply
in-line?
>> >>> When
>> >>>> the post you want to reply to is long it's pretty hard to
keep
>> context if
>> >>>> you can't reply in-line. The alternative is to copy and
quote the
part
>> >>> that
>> >>>> you are referring to, but it's not that nice.
>> >>>
>> >>> Yes it’s possible and very easy to do: simply select the text you
wish
>> to
>> >>> reply to and you’ll see the option to reply to it :)
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> -Vincent
>> >>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Marius
>> >>>>
>> >>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> So the plan I’m proposing is:
>> >>>>> * On Monday, make the users list readonly
>> >>>>> * Send a last message on it, inviting users to move to the
forum
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Note that we’ve already been putting a notice to all
messages
sent on
>> >>> the
>> >>>>> users lists inviting users to move to the forum and this has
been
>> >>> running
>> >>>>> for 2 weeks already.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> My feeling is that we need to finalize the move now and
prevent
too
>> much
>> >>>>> scattering of user posts both on the users list and on the
forum
and
>
>>> have
> >>>>> them all on the forum ASAP.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Thanks
> >>>>> -Vincent
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
>
>
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Thomas Mortagne