19 Apr
2017
19 Apr
'17
5:45 p.m.
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:44 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Tue, Apr 18, 2017 at 5:11 PM, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
/
users
> switch to another item before the tooltip is displayed.
>
>
>> So, the question is:
>>
>> - is it better to clutter the screen to help a few first-time users that
But for the Delete/Rename/Copy we need to change the icon for sure since
right now we’re using a “settings” type of icon which is quite misleading.
On 18 Apr 2017, at 15:55, Ecaterina Moraru
(Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com
wrote:
On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 3:18 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.org>
wrote:
>
>> On 04/12/2017 01:47 PM, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) wrote:
>>> Hi devs,
>>>
>>> Some users have complained that the content actions are too abstract >>> ambiguous and they don't
see/understand them so they don't know how
to
>> Edit
>>> or Create content in the first minutes of interaction.
>>>
>>> More details about this problem can be found at
>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions
>>>
>>> There I've suggested 2 possible proposals:
>>> Proposal 1: JS Tooltips
>>> Proposal 2: Labeled actions
>>>
>>> Which one do you prefer?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Caty
>>>
>>> P.S: This was a recurrent topic and we change several things over the
>>> years. I guess we will continue iterating until we reach the sweet
spot
:)
>
IMHO, 1 doesn't solve anything. The buttons already have classic
tooltips, and adding "improved" tooltips adds little to the
discoverability of the actions. If someone is looking for the "edit"
button, they scan the screen for that text with their eyes, they
wouldn't just hover everything with the mouse.
The complain here was the delay the normal tooltips have and that the >> can't interpret the pencil icon?
>> - is it OK to leave things as they are for a cleaner UI?
>> - are there better icons to suggest these actions? And by changing
them
now, will current users be disoriented?
I can't think of other Font Awesome icons to better suggest 'Edit'
and
'Create’.
Ideas:
- http://fontawesome.io/icon/clone/
- http://fontawesome.io/icon/files-o/
- http://fontawesome.io/icon/file-o/
- http://fontawesome.io/icon/clipboard/
The Administer page should probably be moved elsewhere.
How about the "More actions" labeled
grouping from
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/IdeaLabeledActions/P4_
noRightPanels_manage.png
I like it.
Thanks,
Marius
For these changes we need https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-14002 and
https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-12595
Thanks,
Caty
Thanks
-Vincent
> The deciding factor is exactly how many users have a problem with the
> current UI.
> --
> Sergiu Dumitriu
> http://purl.org/net/sergiu/