On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
 On 11 Jan 2016 at 14:16:40, Marius Dumitru Florea (
 mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com))
 wrote:
  On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:00 PM,
vincent(a)massol.net
 wrote:
 > Hi Marius,
 >
 > I prefer to think in term of use cases. Here are the ones I see as
 > important on this topic and that I think we need to ensure that we
 > implement:
 >
 > UC1: Ability for admins to install an extension that contributes a new
 > editor
 > UC2: Ability for admins to select which editor is the default editor 
 for
  > their users in a given wiki (note that
ideally this configuration 
 should be
  > per wiki for the farm use case)
 > UC3: Ability for admins to decide which editors are active (i.e. which
 > editors users will be able to configure or use). For example it should 
 be
  > possible to completely replace the GWT-based
WYSIWYG by CKEeditor and
 > preventing any user from using the GWT-based WYSIWYG editor.
 > UC4: Ability for a user (simple or advanced) to explicitly decide which
 > default editors he/she’ll use (in his/her user profile probably). 
 Should
  > override the editor selected in UC2 (but
they should only see editors 
 that
  > are active, cf UC3)
 > UC5: Ability for an advanced user to choose on the spot (on-demand) the
 > editor to use to edit a given page, bypassing the default editor. 
 Should
   override
the editor selected in UC4.
 WDYT?
 
 All these use cases are covered by both A and B so it doesn't help me
 choose one or the other. My question is more how to implement these use
 cases: using A or B? 
 
 Ok cool if they’re covered by A and B (it wasn’t mentioned in your email…).
 
  Note that currently there’s no default choice anymore
for advanced users
 when they edit a page and we’d need to put that back (that’s UC4).
 
. The first entry in the Edit menu is "Edit" which leads to the default
edit mode. Of course, it's not as in Colibri, you still need to open the
menu.
 Apart from this, I think I prefer A) than B).
 Thanks
 -Vincent
  > Thanks
 > -Vincent
 >
 > On 11 Jan 2016 at 12:31:12, Marius Dumitru Florea (
 > mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com))
 > wrote:
 >
 > > Hi devs,
 > >
 > > I'm working on integrating CKEditor in XWiki and I'm wondering how
 the
  > Edit
 > > menu should reflect the fact that there are multiple editors 
 available.
I
  > > see two options:
 > >
 > > (A) List all the available content editors in the Edit menu (note 
 that
  > the
 > > menu is visible only for advanced users). E.g. Wiki, GWT WYSIWYG,
 > CKEditor
 > >
 > > PROS:
 > > * easier to implement (because there is already an UIX for this)
 > > * easier to discover new content editors (e.g. after an admin 
 installs
an
  > > extension that provides a content
editor)
 > > * ability to try a different content editor than the one configured 
(i.e.
  > > without updating the configuration)
 > >
 > > CONS:
 > > * the (advanced) user might not know, at first, which content editor 
 to
  > > choose from the Edit menu
 > > * once the user has a preferred editor the other content editor 
 entries
  > > become noise (the user may want to hide
them)
 > >
 > > (B) List only the edit modes in the Edit menu. E.g. Wiki, WYSIWYG
 > >
 > > PROS:
 > > * easier to choose the edit mode (wiki/source vs. WYSIWYG)
 > > * less crowded Edit menu (easier to scan, no noise)
 > >
 > > CONS:
 > > * the user needs to edit his profile to discover the available 
 editors
  > for
 > > Wiki/WYSIWYG modes
 > > * harder to try the new content editors (you need to update the
 > > configuration)
 > >
 > > Let's see what we need for each option:
 > >
 > > (A) Needs:
 > > * UIX in the Edit menu (already available)
 > > * 1 configuration option ("editing.content.defaultEditor") to 
configure
  > the
 > > default editor (at farm/wiki/space/user level). We can probably 
 extend
  > the
 > > "Default editor to use" preference from the user profile to show all
 the
  > > available content editors.
 > >
 > > (B) Needs:
 > > * 3 configuration options:
 > > ** default edit mode (Wiki vs. WYSIWYG), already available in the 
 user
  > > profile
 > > ** default Wiki mode editor (only one editor for now so we can skip 
 it)
  > > ** default WYSIWYG mode editor
(GWT-based vs. CKEditor)
 > >
 > > I'm leaning towards option (A). WDYT?
 > >
 > > Thanks,
 > > Marius 
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