27 Oct
2008
27 Oct
'08
4:03 p.m.
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu <sergiu(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Asiri Rathnayake wrote:
Yes that's what I thought. Anyway, I'm not an experienced user. I thought
it's the way most editors behave but it seems like I'm wrong.
+1 fro b).
Thanks.
- Asiri
On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 5:50 PM, Marius Dumitru
Florea <
mariusdumitru.florea(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
b)
Hi devs,
Let's consider the following scenario:
* Edit a new page with the new WYSIWYG editor.
* Type a word like "ubuntu".
* Move the caret inside the word like "ubu|ntu".
* Press the Bold button or type CTRL+B.
Question: What is the expected behavior?
a) Apply the inline style (bold) only to the insertion point. The next
letters typed will have this style applied.
b) Apply the inline style (bold) to the word that contains the insertion
point ("ubuntu").
Note: b) is the current behavior in Open Office and IE. FF behaves as in
a). The behavior currently implemented in the new WYSIWYG editor is a).
Also, by choosing b) I avoid the use of the special space character in
IE (see my previous mail), but I have to re-implement the current
behavior of the new WYSIWYG. I need around 2 days for it. Of course, it
will work for any inline style like bold, italic etc.
As a user I would expect the behaviour in a) (personal opinion). But if is currently used existing editors and it also
let's us go around a hacky
solution. I would say +0 for b).
Why would you expect a)? It doesn't seem intuitive to me. It does seem a
bit consistent, since if you're outside the word and click bold,
then
you start writing bold, without anything already existing being turned
into bold. But intuitive, no. I expect (and both MS Word and OO Writer
do this) that when I click inside a word and press the B button, that
word becomes bold. I don't (almost) ever need or want to start typing
bold inside a word. If I want part of the word to be bold, I write the
full word, select the part that I want bold, and click the B button.
Isn't this what everybody would do?
To Marius and the rest of the WYSIWYG team, the final goal is that the
editor behaves as the user expects, not as the browser is coded. We
should stick to what desktop products do as much as possible, unless
their behavior strongly contradicts what we think the user expects. Of
course, having a feature working sooner is more important than waiting
for all the browser misbehaviors to be corrected. Working feature first,
bug workaround afterwards (only other people's bugs, as we should not
produce bugs in our code in the first place).
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/
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