5 Oct
2017
5 Oct
'17
3:58 p.m.
On Wed, Oct 4, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
2017-10-03 17:34 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<valicac(a)gmail.com>om>:
Depends on what we want to focus on and also on what are user's
expectations.
If you look at the majority of notifcations in the wild, the user is the
focus.
People want to know who did what, on what page, when.
But Facebook, for example, is a social network. It focuses on people by
nature. On XWiki, it is not that evident. In the case of a knowledge base,
you focus more on the content (the knowledge) than on the people. On
xwiki.org, I guess you prefer seeing what's change instead of who made
some
changes...
I know the pages are important, that's why the first link and item
displayed is the page name.
I want to know if a spam user did something.
Thanks,
Caty
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 11:27 AM, Thomas Mortagne
<
thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
than
On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 9:54 AM, Guillaume
Delhumeau
<guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
(create,
> > edit, comment, etc...) is too small compared to the user face.
> >
> > Actually when I see these screenshot, my first impression is that the
> user
> > has been modified :) Would it be nice to have the type icon bigger So your proposal focuses a lot more on the users
instead of the apps
(like
> facebook for example). It's OK for me, but I think the type icon > the
> > user face? To me, what happened is more important than who made it,
but
maybe it's only my feeling.
Pretty much the same comments on my side. I find weird to focus that
much on users, I would have preferred images corresponding on the
change made.
If we define XWiki as a collaboration tool, then you
collaborate to create
something and so the focus is naturally more on that "something".
Just my 2 cents :)
wrote:
see
harder
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Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
Nice work anyway, as usual :)
Guillaume
2017-10-03 9:50 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau <
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com
>>:
>
>>
>>
>> 2017-10-02 18:09 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
>>
>>>
>>> > On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:08, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:05, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>
wrote:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Another feedback/questions:
> >>> >>
> >>> >> * Is the avatar icon clickable and leading to the user
profile?
> >>> >> * We need a way to link directly to the diff, at least for
page
> events
> >>> so that the user can see what was modified (as we have currently in
> the AS)
> >>> >
> >>> > * Maybe “2 hours ago” is not precise enough. In your example I
I
for
> the
> >>> same page, f.ex: Creation, Modification, Deletion.
> >>>
> >>
> >> And you could also have different users grouped in the same
composite
>>> created and modified the Roadmap
page but they both say “2 hours
ago”.
>>
Shouldn’t I be able to see how far away both events were done?
>>
>> My understanding is that events are grouped by app+type but not by
entity
>>> anymore (for page events) and thus you can have 3 events displayed > >> event. So when you display the
details, it would be nice to show
which
> user
> >> made each event, and I see you have removed this info.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> -Vincent
> >>>
> >>> >
> >>> > Thanks
> >>> > -Vincent
> >>> >
> >>> >>
> >>> >> Thanks
> >>> >> -Vincent
> >>> >>
> >>> >>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:01, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>
> wrote:
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:54, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<
> >>> valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> >>>>
> >>> >>>> Event Type: BlogPostPublishedEvent
> >>> >>>> from
> >>> >>>>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/Notification
> >>> sImprovements9x#HEventTypes
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> ok thanks, had missed this since I was reading from top to
bottom
and
>>> stopped at the overview :)
>>> >>>
>>> >>> However I don’t think it scales since it means one unique icon
per
>>> combination of app type + event
type.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> What would scale better is two icons: one for the app type and
one
>>> for the event type.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> For example imagine that the Blog app had the following
events:
>>> >>> * When a blog post is published
>>> >>> * When a blog post is created
>>> >>> * When a blog post is removed
>>> >>>
>>> >>> You wouldn’t be able to use the RSS icon to represent the 3
events.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> BTW the RSS icon isn’t necessarily representative of the Blog
app.
> A
> >>> lot of apps can have a RSS feed.
> >>> >>>
> >>> >>> That’s the main remark I have: it’s going to be harder and
to
>>> find unique icons as we had more events to apps, especially if
there’s
only
Notifications
>> 1 icon that is supposed to combine both
app type + event type.
>> >>>
>> >>> WDYT?
>> >>>
>> >>> Thanks
>> >>> -Vincent
>> >>>
>> >>>> Thanks,
>> >>>> Caty
>> >>>>
>> >>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Vincent Massol <
vincent(a)massol.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>
>>> >>>>> Hi Caty,
>>> >>>>>
>>> >>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:21, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<
>>> valicac(a)gmail.com>
>>> >>>>> wrote:
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> Hi,
>>> >>>>>>
>>> >>>>>> I've created some improvements suggestions for
our >>
UI, see
>> >>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>> >>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Let me know what you think.
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Re the overview, I don’t see where you mention the app?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> For example, could you show how a new Blog post would be
displayed
>> and you
>> >>>>> differentiate that for example from a Page creation or
modification?
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>> Thanks
>> >>>>> -Vincent
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>>
>> >>>>>> Thanks,
>> >>>>>> Caty
>> >>>>>
>> >>>>>
>> >>>
>> >>
>> >
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>
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Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
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Thomas Mortagne