3 Jun
2009
3 Jun
'09
1:16 a.m.
Hello,
see below
Vincent Massol wrote:
I don't think this is a good idea. I've never seen any
application
giving tags more importance than the content itself (and considering
that until recently tags were not displayed at all, putting them in
the
footer is already a big improvement).
Here's an example:
http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Main/TWikiSuccessStories
That said I agree it's not a good idea. It just needs to be easy for
someone to see the tags without having to scroll (like with a Show
Tags menu entry).
Actually, does a user need / want to see the tags? or they're just a way to make
machines understand what a document is about, with little effort from humans
(which create the content) and little effort from machines which don't need to
NLP content.
I think a human user would rather know what a document is about from the title
and first few lines. I don't think I would look for the tags if I had the actual
content in front of my eyes. Maybe after reading, indeed.
Happy coding,
Anca
yes
Yes, that's what I meant.
Thanks
-Vincent
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On Jun 2, 2009, at 7:27 AM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
> Vincent Massol wrote:
>> On May 31, 2009, at 9:54 PM, Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
>>
>>> Hello devs,
>>>
>>> I'd like to reorganize the document footer as depicted in
>>> http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/DocumentFooter ,
>>> namely:
I like the proposal, it looks good / feels right. Of course we'll have more
things to comment after we'll see it working and use it, so go for it!
+1
1: Tags will be displayed after the document content, as links to
tag
pages, and not in an input element in the Information tab as they
are
now. They are still editable in view mode by clicking an edit button
available after the tags list.
Shouldn't tags be more visible and displayed
before the doc content
instead? If not,
then I think we should add a "View/Edit tags" entry in the
action menu, same as what we have for comments, attachments, etc
You mean the
"Show" menu? 2. The "Created by ... on ..." information
about the document will
be
displayed before "Last modified by...", under the document content,
and
not down in the page footer, where it seems ambiguous (seems to be
referring to the whole wiki), nor in the Information tab.
+1
3. The "Information" tab becomes
"Related documents", since it does
not
contain the tags and the creator anymore. The related documents are:
* parent (editable in view mode by the same mechanism as the tags)
* children
* included documents
* links and backlinks
+1
4. A new "Rights" tab is displayed for
admins after "Related pages",
basically providing the rights management UI.
+1 although I don't think
it's just for admins. It should be to
anyone
having the rights to change the rights (ie edit rights). However it
should probably not be displayed in simple mode (only in advanced
mode). Does it mean anything for the edit panel? Does it
mean edit mode will
be only for editing the content, objects and class? Do we keep both?
(same question for the history and tags/parent).
Hm, interesting you asked this.
Actually this change was a step
towards
a larger reorganization of the UI, with the final goal of eliminating
the edit mode completely. But more on this later.
Yes, this means that the rights edit mode will be removed from the
Edit
menu and the edit mode panel.
--
Sergiu Dumitriu
http://purl.org/net/sergiu/