Vincent Massol wrote:
  On Apr 30, 2009, at 10:14 AM, Jerome Velociter
wrote:
  Hi Vincent,
 Note the livetable is an empty table everywhere you don't have
 JavaScript.
 Inserting the select in JavaScript sounds a bad idea to me. It would
 be
 a hack to hide form controls (button, select, etc) to renderers for
 which they do not have sense. But those form controls are meaningful
 in
 the macro, to me a form is something that by itself justify the
 use of
 the HTML macro. (and actually I'm not sure you can do that trick
 that
 easily, since the select values are generated server side from
 velocity).
 I'm completely convinced we have to use standard wiki syntax as much
 as
 possible, but we should also keep in mind that some macros will not
 make
 any kind of sense anywhere but in a browser. Can renderers that do
 not
 support HTML fragments just drop them (eventually outputting a
 message
 to say a part of the original document is missing) ? 
 Yes that's the problem: they'll be dropped. So instead of a table
 with
 data it'll be an empty space.
 That said we need to think how we'd want a livetable to be displayed
 in other renderers. 
 For me, we should display a message that explain "this part of the
 document cannot be represented in this format". Could this be a
 parameter of the HTML macro, the "I'm sorry I can not be rendered with
 this renderer, etc." message ?
 Again, even if we make the macro use only wiki syntax, it will be an
 empty table, which is IMHO worse than an empty space (users will be
 wondering that is supposed to be).
 Of course we can think of an alternative to be displayed (which I
 believe is not an easy task for a live table, since you'll never
 want to
 display a table with 30.000 entries, so displaying the whole table
 is...
 out of the table), but we'll have the case anyway with potentially lot
 of other things. (How do you render a canvas element ? a flash
 object ?
 an applet ? etc.) I really think we'll need a way to display an
 "excuse
 message". 
  Jerome.
 As I said that's not a problem we have now but we need to be aware of
 it since it'll crop up again one day.
 -Vincent
  Thanks,
 Jerome.
 Vincent Massol wrote:
> Note that since you've used the HTML macro using renderers may not
> output the live grid (only renderers that support HTML will be able
> to
> output some result).
>
> I've checked the html and all of it could be replaced by wiki
> syntax
> except for the select part. We could use wiki syntax everywhere and
> use some JS to inject the select in the HTML DOM afterwards. This
> would allow to output it easily.
>
> We currently have only 2 renderers that we use: xwiki syntax and
> xhtml
> and both support Raw events when the syntax is HTML. We can imagine
> that PDF, RTF renderers would also support it (it'll depend on
> how we
> implement it, if we use FOP it's fine but there's also a very
> simple
> way to implement a PDF renderer using itext but then I don't
> think if
> it can support HMTL fragments). We have a LaTex renderer that we
> currently don't use and this one won't work for example.
>
> This is just a thought for now. We just need to be aware of it for
> the
> future. We need to remember that using the HTML macro bypasses the
> rendering mechanism and thus generate non standard stuff.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> On Apr 30, 2009, at 8:08 AM, jvelociter (SVN) wrote:
>
>> Author: jvelociter
>> Date: 2009-04-30 08:08:53 +0200 (Thu, 30 Apr 2009)
>> New Revision: 19209
>>
>> Modified:
>> platform/core/trunk/xwiki-core/src/main/resources/
>> ApplicationResources.properties
>> platform/web/trunk/standard/src/main/webapp/resources/js/xwiki/
>> table/livetable.css
>> platform/web/trunk/standard/src/main/webapp/resources/js/xwiki/
>> table/livetable.js
>> platform/web/trunk/standard/src/main/webapp/templates/macros.vm
>> Log:
>> XWIKI-3705 Clean and enhance the javascript Live Table component
>> XWIKI-3706 Provide a velocity macro to automate the creation of
>> live
>> tables
>>
>> * Added support for multiple pagination nodes (for example one on
>> top, and one under the table). Formatting of livetable.js
>> * Added the #livetable macro in macros.vm, that supports syntax
>> 1.0
>> and 2.0
>> 
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