27 Oct
2017
27 Oct
'17
5:31 p.m.
Hi,
So these are some more iterations for the notifications layout
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/NotificationsImprovements9x…
I've played with User centered vs. Event centered and variants for
displaying the avatars, user names and event names.
Let me know what version you prefer. Also you can fork the prototypes if
you want to make some small changes.
Thanks,
Caty
On Tue, Oct 24, 2017 at 12:47 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
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Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project
On 24 Oct 2017, at 11:24, Guillaume Delhumeau
<
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Hello
2017-10-24 11:12 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
Yes and we have 4 solutions:
* Solution 1: make it simpler to understand for everyone
* Solution 2: have a wiki admin UI level option to select whether to
include diff or not in the default template + user-level profile UI option
(ie. per user)
* Solution 3: have a singe button in the mail, that, when clicked,
displays the diff (which is hidden by default)
* Solution 4: implement 2 mail templates (one for simple users and one for
advanced users) and let the users choose in their profile which one they
want to receive + have a wiki admin UI level option to decide which is the
default when not overridden by the user.
Thanks
-Vincent
Hi Guillaume,
I have also mentioned that the diff we propose is too technical for many
users. On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:58, Guillaume Delhumeau
<
guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
Any news on this? I'd like to implement this quickly because 9.10 is
coming
:)
This the current status:
* Caty proposed some improved layout for displaying notifications
* I commented about the need to display event + type, and about the need
to have a link to see the diff. I also mentioned that we need to work on
the mail template display
* Caty replied and updated her proposal to take into account those
comments.
* I kind of like Caty’s proposal focused on the user. We want to favor
contributions and I think it helps. It also makes the UI more appealing
visually.
* You mentioned that you’d prefer a proposal more focused on the event
rather than the user
* Thomas agrees with you
* Edy mentioned some extra points
> So I guess we need to decide about whether we show the avatar as in
Caty’s
proposal
or not, right? Is that what you’re asking about Guillaume?
On my side, I don’t see the issue in displaying the user avatar large vs
small. The events are still ordered by page events.
Thanks
-Vincent
Thanks
>
>>
>> 2017-10-23 13:19 GMT+02:00 Guillaume Delhumeau <
>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com>gt;:
>>
>>> Note that you have a mail template for the notifications too. It's
>>> https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/blob/
>>> 83b76ed4c26954aa2755bbdce23b32c41725ac06/xwiki-platform-
>>> core/xwiki-platform-notifications/xwiki-platform-
>>> notifications-ui/src/main/resources/XWiki/Notifications/
>>> MailTemplate.xml#L23 but it's not documented yet.
>>>
>>> This mail template allows you to customize the header and the footer >>> the email, but not the actual
content.
>>>
>>> To be precise, each *event type* can have its own template or failback
> to
>>> the default one (https://github.com/xwiki/xwiki-platform/blob/
>>> acdf68f4c0d20a9b44ea48eec4df808e22c54548/xwiki-platform-
>>> core/xwiki-platform-web/src/main/webapp/templates/
>>> notification/email/default.html.vm)
>>>
>>> So it's a template *per event type* and it's not linked to any user
>>> choice. But we could add some options in the default template for
> example.
>>>
>>> 2017-10-17 16:23 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
>>>
>>>> Hi Guillaume,
>>>>
>>>>> On 17 Oct 2017, at 07:16, Guillaume Delhumeau <
>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Some ideas.
>>>>>
>>>>> I have feedback about the fact the diff is way too technical for
> users.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example: "What does it means???"
https://img15.hostingpics.net/
>>>>> pics/670307example1.png
>>>>>
>>>>> So we could hide this in a "technical details" link.
>>>>
>>>> That’s one option but there’s another which is to provide the ability
> to
>>>> choose which mail template to use in the Admin and provide several
>>>> templates for different needs.
>>>>
>>>> For example for the xwiki.org watchlist we absolutely need to be
able
> to
>>>> see the diffs without clicking a “technical details” link for each
>>>> notification. It could be ok if there’s a single “technical details”
> link
>>>> for ALL notifications that shows all diffs at once.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>> -Vincent
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The "details" link could be replaced by a "more"
link, with a very
>>>>> simplified diff (the complete diff would go the the technical
details
>>>> view).
>>>>>
>>>>> In the body of the event, in addition with the title of the
document,
> we
>>>>> could add some extracts of the diff.
>>>>>
>>>>> Example taken on gmail:
>>>>> https://img15.hostingpics.net/pics/763456example2.png
>>>>>
>>>>> I hope it helps,
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2017-10-12 15:38 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks nice. Does it work in all mail clients that support HTML?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'd like an option to show the details for all events as
otherwise
> it's
>>>>>> too painful to have to open all one by one (for the use case when
you
>>>> want
>>>>>> to check everything).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Same as Guillaume: not all events are page-related events. So we
need
>>>> to
>>>>>> handle those too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 12 Oct 2017, at 15:03, Guillaume Delhumeau <
>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First of all, it looks very nice.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Now, you said the events are displayed like in the
notifications,
> but
>>>> in
>>>>>>> the notifications they are ordered by dates, not by pages.
Does
your
>>>>>>> proposal imply to
change the ordering? What about events that do
not
>>>>>>> concern any page
(like: "a new wiki has been created" or "a new
> XWiki
>>>>>>> version is available")? We don't have such events
for now but we
> plan
>>>> to
>>>>>>> have some soon. We could display them last for example.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Nice CSS expand!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks you,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2017-10-12 14:47 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This is a proposal for the Notifications mail:
>>>>>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9xEmail
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I've continued with the 'user' avatar focused
proposal, since
I've
>>>>>>>> currently focused
on the email template. If we drop the user
avatar
>>>>>> (since
>>>>>>>> we group multiple users) then we can have the event/app
icon
> instead
>>>> of
>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> avatar.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What I want to have feedback on is the email layout,
functionality
>>>> (tree
>>>>>>>> navigation, details expanding) and styling.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You can play with the Prototype
>>>>>>>> http://jsfiddle.net/risherry/cj25759w/embedded/#Result
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we were to translate to the mail template, there are
still
some
>>>> things
>>>>>> to be tested (like translating the CSS selectors into inline,
decide
>>>>> what
>>>>>>> email clients we support, etc.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Let me know,
>>>>>>> Caty
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 5:51 PM, Guillaume Delhumeau <
>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2017-10-03 17:32 GMT+02:00 Ecaterina Moraru (Valica)
<
>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Oct 3, 2017 at 10:50 AM, Guillaume Delhumeau
<
>>>>>>>>> guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 2017-10-02 18:09 GMT+02:00 Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net >>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:08, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:05, Vincent
Massol < >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Another feedback/questions:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Is the avatar icon clickable
and leading to the user
> profile?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * We need a way to link directly
to the diff, at least for
> page
>>>>>>>>>> events
>>>>>>>>>>>> so that the user can see what was
modified (as we have
> currently
>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> AS)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> * Maybe “2 hours ago” is not precise
enough. In your
example I
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> created and modified the Roadmap page but
they both say “2
> hours
>>>>>>>>> ago”.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Shouldn’t I be able to see how far away
both events were
done?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> My understanding is that events are
grouped by app+type but
not
>>>> by
>>>>>>>>>> entity
>>>>>>>>>>>> anymore (for page events) and thus you
can have 3 events
>>>> displayed
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> same page, f.ex: Creation, Modification,
Deletion.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> And you could also have different users
grouped in the same
>>>> composite
>>>>>>>>>>> event. So when you display the details, it
would be nice to
show
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> user
>>>>>>>>>>> made each event, and I see you have removed
this info.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> The focus of this proposal is on user, compared
to the old one,
>>>> when
>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> on the app/doc.
>>>>>>>>>> Close to what we have on Facebool. So it
didn't made sense that
> we
>>>> say
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> a page has been edited by vmassol, and that the
details
showcase
>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>> multiple user actually did the edit.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In Facebook, you have it actually:
>>>>>>>>> https://pasteboard.co/GOioRAT.png
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On XWiki, we have the following (already
implemented):
>>>>>>>>> https://pasteboard.co/GOiqgYf.png
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 18:01,
Vincent Massol <
vincent(a)massol.net
>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:54,
Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>>>>>>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Event Type:
BlogPostPublishedEvent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x#HEventTypes
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok thanks, had missed this
since I was reading from top to
>>>>>>>> bottom
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> stopped at the overview :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> However I don’t think it
scales since it means one unique
> icon
>>>>>>>>> per
>>>>>>>>>>>> combination of app type + event type.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What would scale better is
two icons: one for the app type
> and
>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the event type.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example imagine that the
Blog app had the following
>>>> events:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is
published
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is
created
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> * When a blog post is
removed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You wouldn’t be able to use
the RSS icon to represent the
3
>>>>>>>>> events.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> BTW the RSS icon isn’t
necessarily representative of the
> Blog
>>>>>>>>> app.
>>>>>>>>>> A
>>>>>>>>>>>> lot of apps can have a RSS feed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That’s the main remark I
have: it’s going to be harder and
>>>>>>>> harder
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> find unique icons as we had more events
to apps, especially
if
>>>>>>>>> there’s
>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1 icon that is supposed to combine both
app type + event
type.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Oct 2, 2017 at 6:52 PM,
Vincent Massol <
>>>>>>>> vincent(a)massol.net>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Caty,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 2 Oct 2017, at 17:21,
Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <
>>>>>>>>>> valicac(a)gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've created some
improvements suggestions for our
>>>>>>> Notifications
>>>>>>>>>> UI, see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> NotificationsImprovements9x
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know what you
think.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Re the overview, I don’t see
where you mention the app?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> For example, could you show
how a new Blog post would be
>>>>>>>> displayed
>>>>>>>>>> and you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> differentiate that for
example from a Page creation or
>>>>>>>>> modification?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Caty
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
>>>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>>>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
>>>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>>>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
>>>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>>>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
>>> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
>>> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
> Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
> Committer on the XWiki.org project
>
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Guillaume Delhumeau (guillaume.delhumeau(a)xwiki.com)
Research & Development Engineer at XWiki SAS
Committer on the XWiki.org project