5 Mar
2009
5 Mar
'09
6:14 p.m.
Anca Paula Luca wrote:
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Sergiu Dumitriu wrote:
Yes:
| cell | => <td>cell</td> => |cell|
Adding meta data to keep spaces is crazy:
| cell | => <td><!--ws:3-->cell<!--ws:3--></td> => |
cell |
Marius
Marius Dumitru Florea wrote:
The wysiwyg is sending back the rendered html modified i.e. without
non-meaningful spaces => the spaces added for nice wiki formatting will be lost.
Thomas Mortagne wrote:
Why? The renderer should leave spaces as they are, the WYSIWYG editor
should not care about them, and the parser should just leave white space
alone. ~space is the only one that must be transformed and treaded
specially. Hi devs,
We have to make a decision about that.
So here are the proposals:
1) remove the block leading and trainling spaces
* The main goal is to make source formatting for tables for example
more readable
2) make the spaces inside paragraph non meaningfull
* Meaning an HTML like behavior where multiple spaces give one space
3) in case of 1) or 2) use ~<space> as non breaking space
WDYT ?
-0, the users will blame the WYSIWYG for messing up their nicely
formatted table/lists/etc. when switching between the editors. This will
make the WYSIWYG unusable for a wiki syntax user.
> +0,5
for 1) it's not critical for me but i'm not against it and we
> already decided to remove space before list item, headers etc.
> -0 for 2) I don't see the need for that and it's a lot easier for the
> parser to make spaces meaningfull (what to do when you have "test **
> bold**" and things like that)
> +1 for 3)
>
> On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 15:44, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This is our last chance to change this behavior. We've found several
>> places where having meaningful spaces are counter-productive:
>>
>> * in table cells since we can't align table anymore. For example:
>>
>> |= column1 |= column2
>> | this is some para | second column
>> | hello | world
>>
>> (not sure this will be rendered nicely in mail but you see what I mean)
>>
>> * in scripts since having meaningful spaces prevents us from aligning
>> velocity or groovy scripts. For ex we can't write:
>>
>> #if (....)
>> #if (...)
>> do something
>> # end
>> #end
>>
>> To see a better example have a look at http://tinyurl.com/ahz669
>>
>> What I think users real want are meaningful new lines but I see cons
>> overweighting pros for having meaningful white spaces. Thus I'm think
>> we should strip whitespaces at beginning and end of lines including
>> for line breaks.
>> I'm slightly less sure for multiple spaces between words but even
>> there I think we could strip them have users use {{{ }}} to put a non
>> breaking space for ex (or introduce a {{space/}} macro or another
>> special syntax although I'd rather we don't introduce a new syntax).
>>
>> WDYT?
>>
>> Thanks
>> -Vincent
>> http://xwiki.com
>> http://xwiki.org
>> http://massol.net