I think that is a good idea to make a navigation easy to a simple user, we
could give to user a liberty to customize easily his home page with app who
he want, for the implementation i propose an idea to simplified the
customization:
- Make a page in the admin or in the editing of page who we will display
all off applications of the wiki and under this block we display the actual
home page, and we can added or delete the applications by using a drop and
drag, this idea is appreciated by users.
- and for editing the current app used on the home page we can added a
button edit behind any app, and when we click we display a lightbox to
change this app, the idea to use a lightbox is just to stay on the home
page and make other changes easily.
WDYT ?
2014-09-17 9:13 GMT+01:00 vincent(a)massol.net <vincent(a)massol.net>et>:
On 17 Sep 2014 at 08:57:35, Denis Gervalle (dgl(a)softec.lu(mailto:
dgl(a)softec.lu)) wrote:
Well, there is also another way to tackle that
problem, which is to make
the HomePage easily configurable.
I have never understand why the home should be Main.WebHome, which does
not
seems meaningful, in particular in french. Even
the Main space is weird,
imagine a Hand space in english ;) (WebHome could also seen weird, while
being more usual words that I feel hurt less, and could be ommitted).
So, back on track, why not having an easy way to say, "set current page
as
the HomePage", and to in fact use the
Dashboard itself as the default
WebHome ?
Why the hell should we have to destroy some interface to have a different
home page ?
WDYT ?
Denis, this is essentially what my Home Page Application does.
But it doesn’t solve the main problem: editing the home page when it’s the
dashboard!
And it doesn’t solve the issue of the explanation of the concepts.
And it doesn’t invite the user to modify the home page when it’s a
dashboard.
Thanks
-Vincent
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 3:52 PM,
vincent(a)massol.net
wrote:
>
> On 16 Sep 2014 at 15:47:59, Marius Dumitru Florea (
> mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com))
> wrote:
>
> > We won't have the activity stream on the home page by default. This
is
> > an important change. I can't decide
yet..
>
> Yes I know…
>
> Now we could decide to still have it on the home page. We haven’t
decided
> the content for that new home page yet.
>
> However adding it may intimidate users from editing the page since they
> might be worried about loosing that feature. But it could also be made
> clear that the Wiki’s Activity is available from the Dashboard.
>
> The instructions explaining that the page can be edited could even
give an
> example about how to include the Dashboard
page for those who want to
make
> the home page a dashboard.
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 4:23 PM, vincent(a)massol.net wrote:
> > > Hi devs,
> > >
> > > As you know I started working on a Home Page Application, see:
> > > - JIRA with screenshots:
http://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-10586
> > > - Discussion thread:
http://markmail.org/message/ghelufamwucog46x
> > >
> > > I have it all done locally but I refrained from committing it
because
> on the email thread some expressed their
doubts.
> > >
> > > I started thinking about it and I expressed some idea in the thread
> started by Caty about "Wiki - Space - Page concepts pitch":
>
http://markmail.org/message/jefze7nvprz36pkw
> > >
> > > I’m pasting it here again for discussion (with some edits):
> > >
> > > "
> > > BTW concerning the home page, I’m more and more leaning towards
> removing the dashboard from it (it’s accessible from the App panel
anyway)
> and instead have it contain:
> > > - explanation about how the wiki is organized (wikis, spaces,
pages)
> > > - explanation about base concepts
(editing, saving, etc)
> > > - encourage the user to edit this home page to make it his own and
put
> the content he wishes instead
> > >
> > > I think this would solve the following issues:
> > > - users always want to customize the home page and this makes it
easy
> (it’s a standard page, no dashboard). This
is also a way for them to
take
> ownership of the wiki as theirs.
> > > - explains the main concepts of wiki, space, page
> > >
> > > Of course, we also need to provide a navigation panel for easy
> navigation in the wiki/spaces/pages.
> > > “
> > >
> > > If we agree about the idea of removing the dashboard and instead
have
> a simple page then we’ll need to discuss the
exact content and for
that I’m
> proposing to discuss with Caty/GuillaumeD
and make a proposal for
further
> discussion. Of course any idea in reply to
this email would also be
much
> appreciated.
> > >
> > > But first things first! We first need to decide if this is a good
idea
or not.
>
> WDYT?
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
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