22 Jun
2018
22 Jun
'18
9:36 p.m.
On 22 Jun 2018, at 21:20, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Note that we currently have the problem in the Panel Wizard where we have “Edit” links for
all panels. Strangely when we clock them there’s no warning about the page being part of
an extension.
See
http://localhost:8080/xwiki/bin/admin/XWiki/XWikiPreferences?editor=globala…
I’ve created https://jira.xwiki.org/browse/XWIKI-15385
Thanks
-Vincent
On 22 Jun 2018, at 15:00, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi Caty,
After more thinking, it’s actually more complex… The default panels that we provide
belong to the Panel Application and are not meant to be modified (except for a few, the
Quick Links one for example). Thus it would be a bad idea to have Edit buttons for those.
For the others, it’s still a very good idea IMO ;) On 20 Jun 2018, at 11:31, Ecaterina Moraru
(Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Wed, Jun 20, 2018 at 12:09 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Yes
Hi Caty,
> On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:29, Ecaterina Moraru (Valica) <valicac(a)gmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi devs,
>
> Some ideas that could be applied to left panels area:
>
> * Mark "More applications" as expandable
Seems good
> * Provide a "Customize" panel button on hover
I agree with the general idea.
Some details:
* For admins only right?
* What does it do? We don’t have the concept of Panel administration ATM.
What would work is edit the panel page but then we may want to go further
than that. Editing needs to be an option but some panel may provide an
admin UI too such as the Navigation Panel or the Applications Panel. Maybe
it’s time to update the Panel XClass and add an xproperty for the
administration of panels, which would be used if not empty.
In theory only for Admins, since they have access to Administration.
Currently we have dedicated customizations for AppBar and Navigation, so
having that button would help the discoverability. Being able to have it at
the Panel class, could be nice, but I think it's interesting to have it at
least as individual customizations for these 2 panels that are on the Left.
Another panel that comes to mind is the QuickLinks panel that we’re no longer promoting
(it’s not visible by default anymore) but I think it had some nice effect of making users
discover that they can edit panels. If you remember it has a “(edit to add more link)”
kind of link that would be better implemented as a settings/edit button as you’re
proposing.
I think we should offer edit buttons (for any user having editing right on them, we could
protect the Panels app by default with permissions so that only admins can edit panels b
ydefault) so that they can edit all panels easily without having to figure out the name of
the page corresponding to a panel (or having to find the panel in the admin ui panel
wizard).
Thanks
-Vincent
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
>>
>>
>>>> * Some styling changes
>>>
>>> Sounds good
>>>
>>>> * Demo: show sticky left panels would behave
>>>
>>
>> I made the sticky demo mostly as an experiment. I even don't know if I like
>> it. It's problematic for the current skin, since the logo disappears on
>> scrolling.
>> I made the demo since we discussed once on the IRC about independent
>> containers and wanted to see how it looks like. From an implementation POV
>> it's a single "position: sticky" in CSS, but it's not supported
in IE11. So
>> this could be an option just for a newer skin or have JS to have the
>> behavior.
>>
>>
>>>
>>> I’m also not yet 100% sure about the sticky panels but why not, we should
>>> discuss the details. What I don’t like are for cases when you have panels
>>> that span more than a screenful vertically.
>>>
>>> It’s possible there’s not a single valid choice depending how you want to
>>> implement your website and thus maybe the only option is to have this
>>> configurable in the general Panel Admin UI (fixed panels or sticky panels).
>>> That’s what would make the most sense to me. Once we have this, the default
>>> should be what looks best with the default content we provide for XS.
>>>
>>>
>> Yeap, for KB having a sticky TOC or Navigation panel would look great, but
>> it's not the case for all the Flavors. So having it customizable would be
>> preferred.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Caty
>>
>>
>>> I like those ideas! :)
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>
>>>>
>>>> See the prototype in action:
>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/download/Proposal/
>>> IdeaExpandableAppBar/AppBar.gif
>>>>
>>>> The full proposal at:
>>>> http://design.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Proposal/IdeaExpandableAppBar
>>>>
>>>> Let me know what you think.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Caty