Re: [xwiki-devs] [Proposal] Gadgets Integration

Hi, On Wed, Dec 16, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Anamaria Stoica <anam.stoica(a)gmail.com wrote: > Hi devs, > > I restructured a bit the Design page for Gadgets Integration [0]. I > introduced 2 new sections called 'Main Elements' and 'Full Proposals'. > > The 'Main Elements' section describes the general elements which would > be needed/affected by the integration like the Dashboard, Gadgets > Directory, Gadget Macros and Panel Wizard, providing several > implementation options for each of them. > > The next section 'Full Proposals' describes entire solutions for > Gadgets integration (the full story), by combining implementation > options for each element defined in the 'Main Elements' section. > > Right now there are only 2 Proposals: > * Proposal 1 - Gadgets added on Dashboards through Gadgets Directory, > and not WYSIWYG Insert Macro Dialog [1] > * Proposal 2 - Multiple Macros - each XWiki&Google Gadget as its own

I think an important bit of information that we're missing here is an evaluation of how long would either way take to implement. I'd be in

of going for Proposal 2 if the WYSIWYG dialog boxes were easier to

However I'm afraid this is going to be a daunting task if done today. Thus for now I'm +1 for Proposal 1 (the downside being that we introduce some duplication between macros and gadgets).

Guillaume > The mockups page has been divided into 3: > * Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - General [3] > * Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - Proposal 1 [4] > * Mockups for GadgetsIntegration - Proposal 2 [5] > > Feedback and new ideas are very welcome > > Thanks! > Anamaria > > [0] - http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration > [1] - >

> [2] - >

> [3] - > http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Mockups/GadgetsIntegration > [4] - >

> [5] - >

> > > > On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:04 PM, Jerome Velociter <jerome(a)xwiki.com> > wrote: >> On 12/8/09 10:02 AM, Anamaria Stoica wrote: >>> On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 10:08 AM, Vincent Massol<vincent(a)massol.net> > wrote: >>> >>>> On Dec 7, 2009, at 11:21 PM, Anamaria Stoica wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> Hi, >>>>> >>>>> To address Caty's feedback on >>>>> >>>>> >

> < >

>>>>> Caty!): >>>>> >>>>> 1. Should Google Gadgets also be able to add on the side menus? >>>>> (where the >>>>> Panels currently are) >>>>> >>>>> I think users should be able to do this also. >>>>> >>>>> If so, it would make sense to also have a Gadgets macro (not only a >>>>> dashboard macro). But how would it be connected to the dashboard >>>>> macro? Can >>>>> the content of a macro be other macros? Something like: >>>>> {{dashboard}} >>>>> {{gadget ../}}{{gadget ../}}{{gadget ../}} >>>>> {{gadget ../}} >>>>> {{gadget ../}} >>>>> {{/dashboard}} >>>>> , where each row is a stack(column) of the dashboard. >>>>> >>>> Yes that's very easy to do technically. One simple way is to allow >>>> wiki content inside the dashboard macro. Then it's a one liner to >>>> support it. >>>> >>>> Question: What would the dashboard macro do? Is it just for layout?

>>>> which case I'd rather have a more generic {{layout}} macro that can

>>>> used or not be used at will. Or even use the {{column}} macro that we >>>> need to write in 2.0 syntax. See: >>>> - http://code.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Macros/ColumnMacro >>>> -

>>>> >>>> >>> The dashboard should contain the gadgets on 3 columns, and support > drag&drop >>> for them, like here: >>> >

>>> or on iGoogle. >>> >>> Now, it's not clear whether the window of the gadget should be part of > the >>> Dashboard or the Gadget's macro. >>> >>> Supporting drag&drop, the windows must be subclasses of isc.Window, > placed >>> inside a isc.VStack subclass, >>> which are placed inside a isc.HLayout subclass. (the last 2 obviously > being >>> part of the Layout of the Dashboard) >>> (isc.Window, isc.VStack, isc.HLayout are classes in the SmartClient >>> library). >>> >> Question: are we sure we want to implement it with SmartClient? Isn't

>> overkill ? >>> But the Gadgets outside of a Dashboard don't need to be placed inside >>> isc.Window's, as they don't need drag&drop. >>> >>> How can the container of a Gadget be chosen depending on where it's > placed >>> (into a Dashboard, on a side menu Panel), >>> if the window is not part of the Layout? >>> >>> About DisplayPanelLayoutMacro&Column macros: >>> I think that a kind of DisplayPanelLayoutMacro in combination with a > kind of >>> ColumnMacro would work just fine. >>> >> for the record, I wrote a first draft of a column macro for syntax 2.0 >> in the contrib sandbox : >> >> >

>> (it's actually two macro, {{section}} and {{column}} that work

>> you can read it as an example). >> >> Jerome. >>> I say a kind of, because the DisplayPanelLayoutMacro would have to > create a >>> isc.HLayout object and the ColumnMacro >>> a isc.VLayout object. >>> >>> But I'd rather use just one simple macro using the combination of the

>>> mentioned above called dashboard. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>> 2. "The thing is that we need to think about the functional >>>>> duplication of >>>>> the Panel Wizard and the new Dashboard." Caty >>>>> >>>>> <http://incubator.myxwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/XWiki/AnamariaStoica> >>>>> Yes, we need to think about the interface for (Gadgets&XWiki) > Gadgets >>>>> Directory and Panel Wizard. >>>>> >>>>> What would their roles be? Their content? (One would add Google >>>>> Gadgets/Panels to Dashboard macros, the other to side menus...?) >>>>> >>>>> Is one interface enough for Dashboard Gadgets and Panels? If so, how >>>>> would >>>>> it look like? (where to put it, Panel Wizard is in Admin interface) >>>>> >>>>> Also, should the Gadgets Directory support adding gadgets to any >>>>> Dashboard >>>>> macro in any page, or just to personal dashboard? >>>>> >>>> I think Gadgets and Panels should be one and the same, unless there's >>>> a difference I don't see. The only difference I can think of is the >>>> source of the content but it's easy to make that generic. >>>> >>>> Another idea is to consider the panel as only the outside shell/box >>>> and inside the panel it should be possible to put wiki syntax, >>>> including a gadget representation. Thus everything would be a panel. >>>> >>>> Thanks >>>> -Vincent >>>> >>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Anamaria >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Dec 5, 2009 at 10:56 PM, Anamaria Stoica< > anam.stoica(a)gmail.com >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:57 PM, Ludovic Dubost&lt;ludovic(a)xwiki.org&gt; >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> This should go beyond user profiles. Space home pages but any page >>>>>>> should be able to be dashboard pages. >>>>>>> For these pages we would need a way to make them display as >>>>>>> dashboard >>>>>>> pages by default. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We should also make it easy to make these pages dashboard pages >>>>>>> when in >>>>>>> the wysiwyg. Like include a "dashboard" macro. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I view it like that: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1/ Open a page in wysiwyg >>>>>>> 2/ Type some text, include a dashboard macro >>>>>>> 3/ Save >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When in view the dashboard macro renders the dashboard settings >>>>>>> saved in >>>>>>> the content field of the dashboard macro or in XWiki objects save >>>>>>> in the >>>>>>> page. >>>>>>> It adds JS tools to allow to move and change your gadgets and

>>>>>>> used in your dashboard. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> Gadgets on the iGoogle panel also have an Edit Settings action on >>>>>> the top >>>>>> right >>>>>> corner of every gadget, which opens a form with settings for that >>>>>> gadget. >>>>>> >>>>>> Question: >>>>>> If one user changes these settings, should they be visible to >>>>>> everyone, or >>>>>> just to the >>>>>> user editing them? (this way different users will see the gadgets >>>>>> with >>>>>> different settings >>>>>> for the same dashboard) >>>>>> >>>>>> On the personal dashboard is obvious that only you get to change >>>>>> them, and >>>>>> maybe view >>>>>> the dashboard, >>>>>> but what about any dashboard added as a macro on a regular page? >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the changes should be visible to everyone with view rights >>>>>> on the >>>>>> page, and >>>>>> the settings editable for everyone with edit rights on the same

>>>>>> >>>>>> WDYT? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> With this method we might not need the xpage=dashboard template, >>>>>>> as you >>>>>>> could just have an #if in the XWikiUserSheet which displays the >>>>>>> dashboard based on URL params. >>>>>>> The #if would make a call to the XWiki {{dashboard}} macro >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Ludovic >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Anamaria Stoica a écrit : >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi devs, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd like to start working on Gadgets Integration. (this is a new >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> feature) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've been working on the specs with Guillaume, and you can see

>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Design >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> page here: >>>>>>>> >>>> http://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Design/GadgetIntegration >>>> >>>>>>>> The aim of the gadget integration is to provide XWiki users with

>>>>>>>> dashboard-like page that will display a list of gadgets. These >>>>>>>> gadgets >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> can >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> be either internal gadgets (similar to XWiki panels) or external >>>>>>>> gadgets >>>>>>>> (coming from the Google Gadget repository for instance). Users

>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> select >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> which gadgets to display on their dashboard from a gadget

>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> located >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> on the wiki. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I've also created a few Mockups here >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >

>>>>>>>> the Dashboard, Gadget Windows and Gadgets Directory. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> List of features: >>>>>>>> Dashboard >>>>>>>> - Dashboard for each user with drag&drop for Gadget Windows >>>>>>>> - Display both Google Gadgets and XWiki Gadgets (Panels) >>>>>>>> Directory >>>>>>>> - An internal directory with Gadgets in the wiki divided in 3 >>>>>>>> parts: >>>>>>>> * XWiki Gadgets defined in the wiki / in the farm

>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Panels) >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> * Google Gadgets selected out of the global Google >>>>>>>> Directory by >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> wiki >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> admins >>>>>>>> * If allowed by wiki admins: full Google Gadgets

>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'd like to include all of the above with basic functionalities >>>>>>>> into >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> 2.2M1. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> One thing is not clear at this point>> The relationship between >>>>>>>> XWiki >>>>>>>> Gadgets and current Panels: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> They are basically the same thing (same content), but they will >>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>> different containers (drag&drop window with edit settings on >>>>>>>> Dashboard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> present containers for the side menu Panels). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Will all Panels make sense as XWiki Gadgets? If no, when a new >>>>>>>> Panel is >>>>>>>> created, how do you know it's meant to be only a side menu Panel >>>>>>>> and not >>>>>>>> also a XWikiGadget? (this applies for current Panels as well) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also, very important: where should the interface for the Gadgets >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Directory >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> be placed? Appended to Panels.WebHome or new directory >>>>>>>> Gadgets.WebHome? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> In >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> my opinion it needs a different interface from the Panel Wizard >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Interface. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Panel Wizard is in the Wiki Preferences (administration >>>>>>>> space) open >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> only >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> to Admins, but the Directory will have to be available to all