12 Sep
2016
12 Sep
'16
5:24 p.m.
+1
Thanks,
Caty
On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 10:16 PM, Vincent Massol <vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
On the topic of moving stuff out of core we already
have the following 2
threads:
* http://markmail.org/message/viesrhmdavyvdaec
* http://markmail.org/message/y3bkch37mt5iwvxu
To summarize, ATM we’ve discussed about:
* xwiki-platform-blog
* xwiki-platform-release
* xwiki-platform-selenium
* some syntaxes: twiki, apt, confluence*, creole, docbook, doxia, jspwiki,
tex
* some macro transformations: linkchecker, wikiword
* some macros like: the ctsreport one
Thanks
-Vincent
of+XE+Distributions which measures the Jetty/HSQLDB packaging.
only some
parts of SOLR (We use solr-core (36MB) and solr-solrj (654K))?
Maybe we could ask on their list.
scheduler
extension and we know we need to replace the xproperty using
groovy by an xproperty using wiki syntax to allow all script languages to
be used. I don’t know of other places requiring absolutely Groovy in the
platform. Do you?
cleanly
with platform (in create dialog + in WYSIWYG editor).
proposal email
on this and I could move it.
instead of XE
and make XE a flavor (probably under another name, I’ll send
a proposal mail about that) that users would pick at runtime, right?
On 11 Sep 2016, at 19:21, Vincent Massol
<vincent(a)massol.net> wrote:
Hi Thomas,
> On 11 Sep 2016, at 17:16, Thomas Mortagne <thomas.mortagne(a)xwiki.com>
wrote:
Are those jetty/hsqldb or WAR sizes ?
I’ve used http://snippets.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Extension/Size+ Apart from the size another important issue is
the number of external
dependencies we have which among other things makes dependency
handling a pain for extensions.
Here are some numbers from the 8.3M1 WAR:
The WEB-INF/lib takes 172M from which only 12M is pure XWiki jars.
In the WAR some of the biggest features are (size are the feature and
the dependencies used only by that feature):
* Full text search (close to 70M)
** Solr (~30M), including probably totally useless Jetty (yes in the
WAR) stuff (~2M)
** Tika (more than 33M probably not far from 40M, lots of small stuff
I was too lazy to count since Tika has an insane dependency tree full
of stuff used only by it)
70M for text search, wow, that’s huge indeed. Are there are ways to take
For Tika I see only 2 jars:
* tika-core: 602K
* tika-parsers: 782K
So I see only a total of ~1.5MB. Have I missed some to get 33MB+ you
counted?
> * Jython and all its standard libraries (37M): used by code and python
macros
Could be good to not use the code macro in the core (I’ve actually
always made
sure to not use it in the extensions I wrote) and bring the
code macro as flavor dependency only. I’ve just checked quickly and there
are very few places where we use the code macro in platform. Should be easy
to remove those. Then we could move the macro to contrib and bundle it in
the XE flavor for now.
* Old GWT Editor (~26M)
* Groovy+Ivy (7M + 1M): not really used in the XE flavor but required
to write a scheduler and many contrib extensions use it and don't
declare it as dependency
Yep we need to get rid of Groovy in the core. One area is indeed the Things that would not be too hard to move to
Contrib that would also
take several external jars in their luggage (which is also nice for
extensions, the less core extensions the less dependencies issues):
* Office server related stuff (would probably be a good idea anyway to
synchronize it more with LibreOffice than XWiki)
Yep +1. Might need some additional extension points defined to integrate * Chart macro and renderer
Yep, I don’t know any platform code using that. I’m going to send a * Rendering syntaxes not enabled by default (we
already started this
with markdown and mediawiki which are the most used, all the others
are probably never used or very rarely)
Agreed, we have a few more to move out.
* Captcha macro/renderer
Yep
* Formula macro/renderer
Yep
8.3M1 still includes CKEditor and Tour extensions
jars which should
not be there anymore in 8.3 final.
You mean that we should start distributing the platform distribution
[snip]
Thanks
-Vincent
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