11 Jan
2016
11 Jan
'16
5:59 p.m.
On 11 Jan 2016 at 17:57:21, Marius Dumitru Florea
(mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com)) wrote:
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 3:27 PM, vincent(a)massol.net
wrote:
ok my bad then, I thought we had removed it.
Thanks
-Vincent
On 11 Jan 2016 at 14:16:40, Marius Dumitru Florea (
mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com))
wrote:
Ok cool if they’re covered by A and B (it wasn’t mentioned in your email…).
On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 2:00 PM,
vincent(a)massol.net
wrote:
> Hi Marius,
>
> I prefer to think in term of use cases. Here are the ones I see as
> important on this topic and that I think we need to ensure that we
> implement:
>
> UC1: Ability for admins to install an extension that contributes a new
> editor
> UC2: Ability for admins to select which editor is the default editor
for
> their users in a given wiki (note that
ideally this configuration
should be
> per wiki for the farm use case)
> UC3: Ability for admins to decide which editors are active (i.e. which
> editors users will be able to configure or use). For example it should
be
> possible to completely replace the GWT-based
WYSIWYG by CKEeditor and
> preventing any user from using the GWT-based WYSIWYG editor.
> UC4: Ability for a user (simple or advanced) to explicitly decide which
> default editors he/she’ll use (in his/her user profile probably).
Should
> override the editor selected in UC2 (but
they should only see editors
that
> are active, cf UC3)
> UC5: Ability for an advanced user to choose on the spot (on-demand) the
> editor to use to edit a given page, bypassing the default editor.
Should
override
the editor selected in UC4.
WDYT?
All these use cases are covered by both A and B so it doesn't help me
choose one or the other. My question is more how to implement these use
cases: using A or B? Note that currently there’s no default choice
anymore for advanced users
when they edit a page and we’d need to put that back (that’s UC4).
There is,
http://platform.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Features/PageEditing#HAdvancedMode
. The first entry in the Edit menu is "Edit" which leads to the default
edit mode. Of course, it's not as in Colibri, you still need to open the
menu. > Apart from this, I think I prefer A) than B).
>
> Thanks
> -Vincent
>
> > > Thanks
> > > -Vincent
> > >
> > > On 11 Jan 2016 at 12:31:12, Marius Dumitru Florea (
> > > mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com(mailto:mariusdumitru.florea@xwiki.com))
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hi devs,
> > > >
> > > > I'm working on integrating CKEditor in XWiki and I'm
wondering how
> the
> > > Edit
> > > > menu should reflect the fact that there are multiple editors
> available. I
> > > > see two options:
> > > >
> > > > (A) List all the available content editors in the Edit menu (note
> that
> > > the
> > > > menu is visible only for advanced users). E.g. Wiki, GWT WYSIWYG,
> > > CKEditor
> > > >
> > > > PROS:
> > > > * easier to implement (because there is already an UIX for this)
> > > > * easier to discover new content editors (e.g. after an admin
> installs an
> > > > extension that provides a content editor)
> > > > * ability to try a different content editor than the one configured
> (i.e.
> > > > without updating the configuration)
> > > >
> > > > CONS:
> > > > * the (advanced) user might not know, at first, which content editor
> to
> > > > choose from the Edit menu
> > > > * once the user has a preferred editor the other content editor
> entries
> > > > become noise (the user may want to hide them)
> > > >
> > > > (B) List only the edit modes in the Edit menu. E.g. Wiki, WYSIWYG
> > > >
> > > > PROS:
> > > > * easier to choose the edit mode (wiki/source vs. WYSIWYG)
> > > > * less crowded Edit menu (easier to scan, no noise)
> > > >
> > > > CONS:
> > > > * the user needs to edit his profile to discover the available
> editors
> > > for
> > > > Wiki/WYSIWYG modes
> > > > * harder to try the new content editors (you need to update the
> > > > configuration)
> > > >
> > > > Let's see what we need for each option:
> > > >
> > > > (A) Needs:
> > > > * UIX in the Edit menu (already available)
> > > > * 1 configuration option ("editing.content.defaultEditor")
to
> configure
> > > the
> > > > default editor (at farm/wiki/space/user level). We can probably
> extend
> > > the
> > > > "Default editor to use" preference from the user profile to
show all
> the
> > > > available content editors.
> > > >
> > > > (B) Needs:
> > > > * 3 configuration options:
> > > > ** default edit mode (Wiki vs. WYSIWYG), already available in the
> user
> > > > profile
> > > > ** default Wiki mode editor (only one editor for now so we can skip
> it)
> > > > ** default WYSIWYG mode editor (GWT-based vs. CKEditor)
> > > >
> > > > I'm leaning towards option (A). WDYT?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > > Marius