Hi again,
On 9/24/18 10:11 AM, Adel Atallah wrote:
Hi,
AFAIK, anyone can switch from Simple User to Advanced User, so I don't
think it's a good idea to completely prevent someone (by showing an
error) from performing an action just because its user type is not the
right one.
For me, the best solution would be to show a warning to both simple
and advanced users when they try to move/rename pages with xclass.
WDYT?
OK then, I wasn't aware that absolutely every user can change its own
user status: thought it could be managed by an administrator somehow.
So I agree with you then: we should only provide a warning for both kind
of users.
Now to clarify a point: how do we manage the cases when the page itself
contain an XClass and when it's its children that contain XClasses.
1. We show a warning whenever the page and/or its children contain
XClasses and then the form remains the same as usual
2. We show a warning when going to the rename/move form only if the
current page contains a XClass: then we show *another one* on the form
below the checkbox for moving/renaming children and by default it's
unchecked
WDYT is better? Another idea?
Thanks,
Simon
Thanks,
Adel
On Mon, Sep 24, 2018 at 9:55 AM Simon Urli <simon.urli(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> On 9/24/18 9:00 AM, Clément Aubin wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 09/23/2018 10:12 AM, Vincent Massol wrote:
>>> Hi Simon,
>>>
>>>> On 21 Sep 2018, at 16:58, Simon Urli <simon.urli(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/21/18 4:53 PM, Adel Atallah wrote:
>>>>> +1 for the warning, but I would not forbid simple users from
renaming
>>>>> or moving pages but instead just hide the action (from the page
menu).
>>>>
>>>> OK I should have written it: by "forbid" I meant:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Hide the action from the menu
>>>> 2. Return an error message if the user try to access the
>> renaming/moving page (using forged URL)
>> This isn't a realy good idea IMO as we could break extensions that
>> redirect a user to the rename action of a page using things such as
>> $xwiki.getURL().
>
>>
>> A good workaround would be to add the same warning as when editing
>> extension pages [1].
> So you suggest to have the same behaviour for advanced and simple user
> then?
>
> I'm not sure to understand in what way displaying an error to user
> telling them they don't have enough privileges to do this action is
> really breaking a behaviour here.
>
> Could you provide an example of a usecase with an extension you
> mentioned please? Just for me to better see the issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Simon
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Clément
>>
>> [1]
>>
https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Documentation/UserGuide/Features/PageE…
>>
>>>>
>>>> So you suggest we shouldn't do 2?
>>>
>>> So +1 to prevent/warn the user when doing a move/renaming AND copy
>> pages containing XClass definitions (the message should list all such
>> pages).
>>>
>>> -1 to hide the action from the menu (if you’re talking about the
>> “Move/Rename” and “Copy" actions) because:
>>> 1) you get to choose whether you move/rename/copy children after you
>> click the action
>>> 2) even when the current page has an XClass, the user wouldn't
>> understand why he cannot see/click on the action. It’s better that he
>> can do it but get an error message, explaining why and telling him that
>> to contact an advanced users if he really needs to do it.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> -Vincent
>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 21, 2018 at 4:44 PM Simon Urli
<simon.urli(a)xwiki.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> users might currently break their AWM application by
renaming/moving
>>>>>> pages containing XClass definition.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We need a proper refactoring operation to be able to properly do
such
>>>>>> move/rename. But this feature might take a while to be
completely
>>>>>> available.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> In the meantime I propose that we prevent users from
renaming/moving
>>>>>> pages containing XClass.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I propose is the following:
>>>>>> - Forbid completely *simple users* to rename/move pages
>> containing XClass
>>>>>> - Display a warning to *advanced users* when they perform
such
>>>>>> operation: the same kind of warning we already have when
performing
>> edit
>>>>>> on XWiki pages
>>>>>>
>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Simon
>>>>>>
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>>>
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