14 May
2009
14 May
'09
12:47 p.m.
Hi Vincent,
Vincent Massol wrote:
On May 14, 2009, at 11:01 AM, Marius Dumitru Florea
wrote:
The problem is that the list item wraps the group and there's no (easy)
way to place the caret after the group but in the list item. In fact the
WYSIWYG editor is not aware of a group: it simply sees a list item with
content inside. But since the caret is inside a heading the Enter key is
treated accordingly, even if the heading is inside a list item. That's
why I think we need a META+Enter to be able to get out of the list item.
Hi there,
Right now the new WYSIWYG editor allows us to create simple lists like
the following:
----------8<----------
* plants
* animals
** invertebrates
** vertebrates
---------->8----------
By pressing just Enter when the caret is inside a list item we
create a
new list item. This is the basic mechanism. It's simple and it should
remain so.
If I want to make the previous list a bit more complex:
----------8<----------
* (((= Plants =
Plants are living organisms belonging to the kingdom Plantae.)))
* (((= Animals =
Animals are a major group of mostly multicellular, eukaryotic
organisms
of the kingdom Animalia or Metazoa.
They are divided into:)))
** (((== Invertebrates ==
An invertebrate is an animal lacking a vertebral column.)))
** (((== Vertebrates ==
Vertebrates are members of the subphylum Vertebrata, chordates with
backbones or spinal columns.)))
---------->8----------
I have to be able to insert new lines inside a list item using the
Enter
key but without creating a new list item. Let's consider the following
state:
----------8<----------
* (((= Plants =)))
---------->8----------
We have a level 1 heading inside a list item. The caret is inside the
heading, at the end. Pressing Enter can have the following three
outcomes:
1. Continue editing in the heading, but on a new line:
----------8<----------
* (((= Title 1
x =)))
---------->8----------
2. Continue editing in the same list item but after the heading, in a
paragraph:
----------8<----------
* (((= Title 1 =
x)))
---------->8----------
3. Create a new list item:
----------8<----------
* (((= Title 1 =)))
* x
---------->8----------
For the first outcome I think we all agree that the user has to press
Shift+Enter. For the second and third outcomes I see two options:
A) Enter for 2 and CTRL/META+Enter for 3
B) Enter for 3 and CTRL/META+Enter for 2
(if you see any other options please step up)
I don't think we need META.
I'd go with the simplest:
* when inside a group, use the normal enter behavior for the
underlying element. If you're in a header then enter create a new
paragraph, etc)
* you need to position the cursor after the group in the list item and
press enter to get a new list item
Note: another solution could allow to get out of the group by pressing
tab but we said we wanted to keep the standard browser tab behavior.
I don't see how we could use the Tab key.
If we really want to introduce a new META+Enter then I'd definitely
vote +1 for A).
BTW how are groups represented visually in the editor? Maybe this is
the real problem?
Groups are not represented visually in a special way. As I said, the
editor is not aware of them right now. I don't see how drawing a border
around the group would help (through CSS). Also, in this case the XWiki
2.0 syntax user is forced to use the group notation in order to add
complex content inside a list item because there's no other means of
doing this so I don't think he would expect to see a border around the
content in the WYSIWYG editor.
Thanks,
Marius
Thanks
-Vincent
I'm +1 for A) for the following reason: if the user has inserted a
heading in a list item then he will surely want to add more content
after that heading, thus pressing just Enter is the natural way of
doing
this. From a technical POV the caret is first inside a heading and
then
inside a list item so the heading should have the priority of handling
the Enter key.
NOTE: Choosing A) or B) doesn't affect the way simple lists are
created,
which is using just Enter.
Please cast your votes and sorry for the long mail,
Marius
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