Re: [xwiki-devs] [VOTE] New Link and Image syntax for XWiki Syntax 2.2

I’ve read again both threads. Not an easy decision... Some thoughts: * I don't like any of the proposed solutions so far because they all make it harder to create links than what user already do in XWiki Syntax 2.0

2.1 * Solution 2 (forcing using the "doc" prefix when creating links to subwikis) is the solution that gathered the most votes. However when I think about solution 2 I think about xwiki.org and all the links I

every week from one wiki to another and I can't refrain from thinking

it's going to make more complex to create them. * I can understand why some didn't like my proposal to have a shortcut syntax for links and a canonical one for typed references. Basically it's too complex for users. In order to be complete, there's another possibility which is to change the delimiter for wikis or for reference types. Obviously it wouldn't be possible to change the delimiter for wikis (i.e. the ":" in "wiki:space.page") so remains the option to change the delimiter for reference types. Here are some ideas for exploring this direction: Solution 10 =========== * [[label>>wiki:space.page]] * [[label>>doc::wiki:space.page]] * [[label>>path::/some/path]] * [[label>>http://xwiki.org]] * [[label>>url::http://xwiki.org]] * [[label>>user::evalica]] * [[image:wiki:space.page@image.png]] * [[image:doc::wiki:space.page@image.png]] * [[image:icon::someicon.png]] PROs: * Syntax remains the shorter possible for links to docs and URLs * Adding a new reference type doesn't break existing links/images CONs: * When using typed links/images, it's bit longer to type ("::" instead of ":") * Small change of syntax for users but the majority of users use the shorthand notation * Still a URI! (even if a weird one) * Force to escape the ":" (with "~:") for spaces or documents starting with ":" Solution 11 =========== Using URL-like notation: * [[label>>wiki:space.page]] * [[label>>doc://wiki:space.page]] * [[label>>path:///some/path]] * [[label>>http://xwiki.org]] * [[label>>https://xwiki.org]] * [[label>>url://http://xwiki.org]] * [[label>>user://evalica]] * [[image:wiki:space.page@image.png]] * [[image:doc://wiki:space.page@image.png]] * [[image:icon://someicon.png]] Compared to solution 10: PROs: * Uses a notation closer to a URL (could be a CONs too!) CONs: * One more character to type "://" vs "::" * A bit strange when linking to URLs using the typed syntax ("url:// http://xwiki.org") * Need to use the typed syntax for URLs other than "http" and "https" (e.g. for specific URL schemes, like "ftp": "url://ftp://192.168.0.1") Solution 12 =========== Then there are other possible notations such as: * [[label>>wiki:space.page]] * [[label>>doc#wiki:space.page]] * [[label>>path#/some/path]] * [[label>>http://xwiki.org]] * [[label>>url#http://xwiki.org]] * [[label>>user#evalica]] * [[image:wiki:space.page@image.png]] * [[image:doc#wiki:space.page@image.png]] * [[image:icon#someicon.png]] Solution 13 =========== Or: * [[label>>wiki:space.page]] * [[label>>doc=wiki:space.page]] * [[label>>path=/some/path]] * [[label>>http://xwiki.org]] * [[label>>url=http://xwiki.org]] * [[label>>user=evalica]] * [[image:wiki:space.page@image.png]] * [[image:doc=wiki:space.page@image.png]] * [[image:icon=someicon.png]] Personally I'm still hesitating but seen that the majority of use cases are for links to documents,

linking to documents.

So I'm still ok with Solution A (i.e. don't do anything) and baring that, solution 10 also seems acceptable to me, seen that we don't use the typed syntax that often so simple users won't see their habits changed. WDYT?

Thanks -Vincent On 30 Apr 2013 at 11:02:46, Vincent Massol (vincent(a)massol.net(mailto: vincent(a)massol.net)) wrote: seems clear that we need to introduce a better syntax for links and

in XWiki Syntax 2.2 (in order to cope with use cases such as http://jira.xwiki.org/jira/browse/XRENDERING-290). breaking backward compatibility in XWiki Syntax 2.2 (since right now with XWiki Syntax 2.0 and 2.1 adding a new type reference handler would break backward compatibility). only kept the interesting proposals from the previous thread). Please

for the one you prefer or add new solutions if you have other better

link or image, i.e. all links would need to be written: [[label>>type:reference]] the user to use the "doc:" notation for example, see example of xwiki.org) subwiki notation from type. ||type="url"]] [[image:wiki:space.page@image.png||type="doc"]] support link parameters _______________________________________________ devs mailing list devs(a)xwiki.org http://lists.xwiki.org/mailman/listinfo/devs