Re: [xwiki-devs] Xwiki Helm HA

On 19-Jul-2019, at 4:03 PM, Ashish Sharma &lt;sharma.ashish960(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Hey Shubham, I have moved the solr folder as exposed by the docker container to the file system. I think in-memory cache is creating problem. I started 3 container of xwiki with shared file storage, but all three were trying to initiate the postgress database, that is causing problem. I want to know few things about xwiki:- 1. Do we use java threads ? -> if we do then filesystem locking should have been implemented for that? 2. Other stateful things in our application like caching or other filestorage that should be externalise? Thanks, Ashish On Fri, 19 Jul 2019 at 3:59 AM, Shubham Jain &lt;jainshubham78(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: > Hey Ashish, > > I think for now you could stick to deployment. Have you been ever to > discover the data you need to move to the shared file system? Is the > in-memory caching mechanism causing problems? > > @Thomas/Vincent - Can you please help us understand the implications of > running XWiki in a clustered mode by sharing data volumes? > > Best, > Shubham. > > > Best, > Shubham? > >> On 19-Jul-2019, at 5:35 AM, Ashish Sharma &lt;sharma.ashish960(a)gmail.com&gt; > wrote: >> >> Resent the email at the mail thread. >> >> On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 2:01 AM Ashish Sharma < > sharma.ashish960(a)gmail.com&gt; >> wrote: >> >>> Hello everyone, >>> >>> I am trying to implement xwiki helm chart in High availability but > facing >>> some problems. >>> >>> How we can implement High Availability(HA) in Kubernetes:- >>> >>> 1. Through Deployment:- In this approach we would use a shared file >>> storage, that would get attached to multiple pods(or containers) >>> 2. Through StatefulSet:- In this approach every pod(or container) would >>> have it’s own different volume and state, which should be synchronised > by >>> an consensus algorithm >>> >>> Problem faced in xwiki case:- >>> >>> 1. In deployment case we need a locking mechanism for our filesystem, >>> moreover caching and states should also be maintained outside the > container. >>> 2. In StatefulSet the consensus algorithm is not present so it is >>> currently not possible. >>> >>> Could anyone help me through it. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Ashish >>> >>> On Wed, 10 Jul 2019 at 10:32 AM, Shubham Jain &lt;jainshubham78(a)gmail.com&gt; >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hey Ashish, >>>> >>>> I think Vincent/Thomas can help with the PR on the xwiki-docker > project. >>>> >>>> Regarding adding docs for High-Availability setup using shared data >>>> volumes, I think you can use could create a docs folder in the GitHub > repo, >>>> and add the docs in Markdown format. I think you can also document it > in >>>> XWiki blog <https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Blog/>. The chart >>>> should support enabling HA, and then passing a storage class which > supports >>>> shareable volumes to Pods, and then you can document examples for using >>>> this with something like Rook+GKE setup. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> Shubham. >>>> >>>> >>>>> On 08-Jul-2019, at 1:57 PM, Ashish Sharma &lt;sharma.ashish960(a)gmail.com >> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello everyone, >>>>> >>>>> I require the xwiki solr docker container to do progress with my > work. I >>>>> have made a pull request >>>>> <https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/docker-xwiki/pull/22>, for the > same. >>>>> Please look into it. >>>>> >>>>> Moreover, I was working with Rook(Ceph Operator) for a shared file >>>> system >>>>> which would be a better approach to deploy our app on production. So I >>>>> think we should document it somewhere. Can anyone help me where should >>>> I do >>>>> that. It may contain the details to configure rook-ceph, and then >>>>> connecting it. >>>>> >>>>> P.S. I am writing a blog at Medium on how to configure rook on Google >>>>> Kubernetes Engine. We could also use that? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Ashish >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 24, 2019 at 8:31 PM Ashish Sharma < >>>> sharma.ashish960(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Shubham, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you Shubham, I will start working on adding test cases. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> Ashish >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 at 3:32 PM, Shubham Jain < > jainshubham78(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hey Ashish, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for the update. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adding our chart to incubator section of helm community charts >>>> repository >>>>>>> sounds great. Although (unlike Dockerhub) this repo is for community >>>> charts >>>>>>> and not really official charts of the respective installations, but >>>>>>> supporting this chart in the community chart repo should help with > the >>>>>>> visibility. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Lets also work on adding tests to the helm chart to ensure things > are >>>>>>> going fine. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>> Shubham. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 21-Jun-2019, at 4:37 AM, Ashish Sharma < >>>> sharma.ashish960(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Update on HELM project:- >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have added some features to the chart that includes:- >>>>>>>> * Making chart configurable with both mysql and postgres database >>>>>>>> * We are now using configmaps and secrets for storing database >>>>>>> credentials >>>>>>>> * We use helm dependency to manage the dependencies of the chart >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think our chart is ready to be deployed in the incubator section > of >>>>>>> helm >>>>>>>> community repo. <https://github.com/helm/charts> If you guys > agree I >>>>>>> would >>>>>>>> make the necessary changes required to deploy it there. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>> - Ashish >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jun 5, 2019 at 7:40 PM Vincent Massol &lt;vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Hi Ashish, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 5 Jun 2019, at 15:07, Ashish Sharma < > sharma.ashish960(a)gmail.com >>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The first week update of helm chart xwiki project. We currently >>>> have a >>>>>>>>>> chart that would deploy xwiki mysql stateful service with a >>>> persistent >>>>>>>>>> volume. The link to the repo:- >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/xwiki-contrib/xwiki-helm >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks for the update. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Would be great if you could update the README file to explain who > to >>>>>>> use >>>>>>>>> it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thanks >>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank You >>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 23 May 2019 at 7:27 PM, Ashish Sharma < >>>>>>>>> sharma.ashish960(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 12:42 PM Vincent Massol < >>>> vincent(a)massol.net&gt; >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Ashish, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 May 2019, at 19:37, Ashish Sharma < >>>>>>> sharma.ashish960(a)gmail.com&gt; >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi everyone, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for having me here >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> About Me >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I am Ashish Sharma, selected as a student for Google Summer of >>>>>>> Code. I >>>>>>>>>>>> am >>>>>>>>>>>>> final year student enrolled in Guru Gobind Singh Indraprastha >>>>>>>>>>>> University, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Delhi. I am a resident of India. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Profiles >>>>>>>>>>>>> GitHub - https://github.com/ashish932/xwiki-helm-chart/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ashish932/ >>>>>>>>>>>>> Riot - @ashish932:matrix.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I will be presenting my project "Helm Chart for XWiki" to all > of >>>>>>> you. >>>>>>>>>>>>> Following >>>>>>>>>>>>> are the relevant details. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Helm Chart for XWiki >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Mentors: Shubham Jain, Neha Gupta >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Technologies: Kubernetes, Docker, other if required >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Overview >>>>>>>>>>>>> The proposed project is a helm chart that would deploy xwiki > as >>>>>>> highly >>>>>>>>>>>>> available and reliable. It should be configurable with > different >>>>>>>>>>>>> databases(either a standalone database or a clustered one) > that >>>> are >>>>>>>>>>>>> configurable with xwiki. It would give the option to either >>>>>>> configure >>>>>>>>>>>> solr >>>>>>>>>>>>> externally (standalone or clustered) or managed within the >>>>>>> container. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It also needs to be deployed on various Servlet Containers and >>>> with >>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> LibreOffice server configured. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> In short, it should support all the configurations supported by >>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> official XWiki Docker images :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It >>>>>>>>>>>>> should deploy the app on a shared file system like a rook. It >>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>>>> support Istio virtual services, istio matrix, and istio >>>> distributed >>>>>>>>>>>> tracing >>>>>>>>>>>>> and should be a secured system with RBAC and security > credential >>>>>>>>>>>> rotation. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ok I have no knowledge about this… The shared file system > sounds >>>>>>> good >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> support clustering XWiki for the permanent directory sharing. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> The chart should be easily deployed on GKE and amazon EKS. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On locally on minikube for testing I guess? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yes we can test using minikube one >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Features >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -> Support for different Databases >>>>>>>>>>>>> -> Choice between using an external database, a single node > DB >>>> or >>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> multi-cluster DB setup >>>>>>>>>>>>> -> Support for shared file system >>>>>>>>>>>>> -> Support for istio and it's services >>>>>>>>>>>>> -> RBAC, SSL and other security methods >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> If you have any features in mind that should be added please >>>> feel >>>>>>> free >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>>> reply to this mail. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Some Design Questions? >>>>>>>>>>>>> -> Which Databases should be supported? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> See >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> > https://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/SupportStrategy/DatabaseSupp… >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> More generally see the XWiki Docker image documentation and >>>>>>>>>>>> https://dev.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Community/SupportStrategy >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -> As we have to detach solr out of the docker container(run > it >>>> in >>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>>>>>> independent container) would be there a requirement for a code >>>>>>> change, >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>>> we should approach it? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> See the doc for Solr which explains how to configure an > external >>>>>>> SOLR. >>>>>>>>>>>> There are some XWiki code/config to deploy in the external SOLR >>>>>>> AFAIR. >>>>>>>>>>>> comunity controls chart >>>>>>>>>>>>> -> Apart from solr is there any other stateful service that >>>> could >>>>>>> or >>>>>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>>>> be detached from the docker container? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Which docker container are you referring to? The Servlet >>>> Container >>>>>>> one? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> xwiki:lts-mysql-tomcat >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Here is my current repository which deploys XWiki for MySQL >>>>>>> database >>>>>>>>>>>> using >>>>>>>>>>>>> official XWiki docker container:- >>>>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/ashish932/xwiki-helm-chart/ >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Will need to have a look. Some additional questions: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 1) Is there an official place for publishing helm charts, >>>> similar to >>>>>>>>>>>> dockerhub for docker images? How do you provide the helm charts >>>> to >>>>>>>>> XWiki >>>>>>>>>>>> users in term of packaging? In other words, what will we/you >>>>>>> document >>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> > https://www.xwiki.org/xwiki/bin/view/Documentation/AdminGuide/Installation/ >>>>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, There is a centralized community control chart management >>>>>>>>>>> repository. Helm charts are hosted there. Organizations like >>>> mysql, >>>>>>>>>>> wordpress uses it. >>>>>>>>>>> https://github.com/helm/charts >>>>>>>>>>> But in addition to that, we can build our own charts repository >>>>>>> locally, >>>>>>>>>>> and host it. Similar to docker run command, we have helm update >>>>>>> command >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 2) How do you plan to have smoke tests for the XWiki Helm >>>> charts, as >>>>>>>>> part >>>>>>>>>>>> of the build, to verify that they work fine? How can we execute >>>>>>> XWik’s >>>>>>>>>>>> functional tests based on TestContainers using Helm Charts? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> There are some tools available >>>>>>>>>>> chart-testing(started by helm) -98 commits >>>>>>>>>>> terratest - 1039 commits (It looks a good tool to use) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 3) Do the helm charts for XWiki need to be built? If so, can it >>>> be >>>>>>> done >>>>>>>>>>>> with Maven? Since we’ll be offering several I guess, how do you >>>>>>> avoid >>>>>>>>> code >>>>>>>>>>>> duplication and make maintenance of them as simple as possible? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> No, the charts don’t need to be built externally, though it gets >>>>>>>>>>> compressed when pushed f we build to chart repository(this is an >>>>>>>>> automatic >>>>>>>>>>> step in case of official chart repo and we can automate using ci >>>> our >>>>>>> own >>>>>>>>>>> chart repo) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 4) Could you provide a roadmap with various milestones and > dates? >>>> See >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> last roadmap email I sent on the devs list and please reply to >>>> it. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Okay I would work on that and update the progress on the mail >>>> thread >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 5) It seems you missed the bonding period so you’ll need to > catch >>>>>>> up on >>>>>>>>>>>> that. Could you pick some jira issue and work on them quickly? >>>> This >>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> make sure you use the proper xwiki communication channels, > learn >>>> to >>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>>>> with the xwiki team and start understanding the xwiki >>>> architecture, >>>>>>>>> and how >>>>>>>>>>>> extensions are developed for XWiki. Since you’re a bit late, >>>> you’ll >>>>>>>>> need to >>>>>>>>>>>> catch up and achieve this very quickly now and be present full >>>> time >>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> xwiki chat :) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I would start doing that >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> 6) Idea: please review the issues on the XWiki Docker project’s >>>>>>> jira. >>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe you can help with those too as part of > onboarding/bonding. >>>> It >>>>>>>>> should >>>>>>>>>>>> also give you additional use cases for the XWiki Helm Charts > IMO. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks! I’m eager to follow your work and see xwiki helm charts >>>> in >>>>>>>>> action. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -Vincent >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank You >>>>>>>>>>>>> Ashish Sharma >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank You >>>>>>>>>>> Ashish >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>> >>>> >